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Were the Allies Too Soft on Germany Following WWII? (Trump Related)

Posted on 2/25/17 at 6:06 am
Posted by Wes B
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 6:06 am
Zachariah Goodman (apparently one of the directors for the American Council for Jewish Affairs) was on CNN earlier discussing Trump's deep-seated bias against Jews and he mentioned that it's par for the course as far as white men go since WWII. He believes we agreed honor the holocasut as long as it didn't interfere with our trade and military alliances with Germany.

It did make me think; Germany is the strongest power, economically and militarily in mainland Europe. They commuted unspeakable crimes against humanity. Were we too we easy on them after WWII?

Their atrocities were the most horrendous th world had seen in a while, and never from a civilized society.

Do you think we swept the true extent the Jews suffered 'under the rug', as he put it, in order to make sure American business and military interests were allowed to prosper?
This post was edited on 2/25/17 at 6:07 am
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 6:10 am to
The Russians weren't too soft on them.
Posted by LSURep864
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 6:11 am to
No. In fact most German people did not support the Nazi party. Right before Hitler took over as dictator, the Nazi party started to lose seats in Parliament. Why would we punish the citizens who just had their nation reduced to rumble?
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 6:11 am to
Too hard on them actually.

They are now so eaten up with white guilt that they might not survive.

We were too easy on the biggest mass genocide instigators like Mao, Stalin and Sanger.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 6:51 am to
quote:

Zachariah Goodman (apparently one of the directors for the American Council for Jewish Affairs) was on CNN earlier discussing Trump's deep-seated bias against Jews


quote:

Trump's deep-seated bias against Jews


I got here and stopped reading.
Posted by Lsuchs
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 7:02 am to
Nvm
This post was edited on 2/25/17 at 7:04 am
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 7:18 am to
Premise of Trump being anti-Jew is retarded.

In answer to question, no. It is because of what the Allies did to Germany that they now welcome their Muslim overlords.
This post was edited on 2/25/17 at 6:45 pm
Posted by TN Bhoy
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 7:41 am to
quote:

Were we too we easy on them after WWII?




We split their country into pieces.

quote:

Their atrocities were the most horrendous th world had seen in a while, and never from a civilized society.





Our 'allies' the Soviets laugh at this. Look up the Holodomor.
Posted by KCT
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 8:15 am to
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The Russians weren't too soft on them.


We were too soft on the Russians. A worn-out, soon to die FDR got taken to the cleaners at Yalta. I never understood why Churchill didn't step in and take more control of things.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 8:55 am to
England was too weak by then. WW2 usher in the permanent rise of larger states such as USSR, USA, and later China. Euro countries couldn't compete and Churchill knew it.
Posted by TheFonz
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 9:08 am to
We learned the hard way what happens when you castrate the krauts after the First World War. We also needed their support of the western half of Germany against the Soviets. The U.S. passed the Marshall Plan to help keep Europe from going totally commie.
This post was edited on 2/25/17 at 9:10 am
Posted by Navytiger74
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 9:09 am to
quote:

Were the Allies Too Soft on Germany Following WWII? (Trump Related)

Well the allies were super hard on them in the Treaty of Versailles that ended the first a World War. That didn't work out so well.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 9:12 am to
quote:

Were we too we easy on them after WWII?


Well, we hung a newspaper publisher. So that was a good thing.
Posted by KCT
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 9:16 am to
quote:

England was too weak by then. WW2 usher in the permanent rise of larger states such as USSR, USA, and later China. Euro countries couldn't compete and Churchill knew it.


I see.

That was a shame, because FDR was a mess by then.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 9:24 am to
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England was too weak by then. WW2 usher in the permanent rise of larger states such as USSR, USA, and later China. Euro countries couldn't compete and Churchill knew it.


Churchill was unique among the big 4 while the war crime trials were going on. He did not believe Nazi officers should be hung for following orders. He was afraid it would cause a slippery slope in future wars where the winners could hang the losers using it as a precedent.
Posted by Navytiger74
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 9:29 am to
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Churchill was unique among the big 4 while the war crime trials were going on. He did not believe Nazi officers should be hung for following orders. He was afraid it would cause a slippery slope in future wars where the winners could hang the losers using it as a precedent.
Yep. He wasn't openly very vocal about this view, but many others were. Nuremberg was actually relatively controversial in many political circles. Perhaps even more importantly, there were serious legal objections raised. Among them, most of the criminal charges brought at trial were for violations of laws that, strictly speaking, didn't exist at the time they were being violated.

To have mercy on the German people and commit to allowing them to reindustrialize and reintegrate with the west, we had to go hard on the leaders. Kind of excise them like tumors for the betterment of the body.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 6:29 pm to
Ironically, Prussia and the allies were pretty damn easy on France after the Napoleonic wars.

Nuremberg and de'nazification were the price Germany paid. Allies weren't going to ignore Germany's internal politics again.

Allies should've invaded Germany at end of WWI instead of stopping in France. It would've prevented the whole Germany didn't lose and was backstabbed meme. Foreign troops on your soil tends to drive home the fact that you lost.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 6:33 pm to
Of the warring powers, in terms of infrastructure and economics, Germany suffered more than any other nation - save Japan. Their government completely collapsed, their largest cities were in ruins, and millions of soldiers and civilians were dead. Compare that to World War I where the war hardly touched the German people.

Germany was totally defeated by May 1945. They had given everything and had suffered more than any nation can reasonably be expected to suffer. What else were the Allies supposed to do to them that hadn't been done already?

Posted by dpd901
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 6:37 pm to
Phil2012 has studied this issue extensively from highly respected sources that common folks aren't privy to. He wrote a poem about it while on the lam in Azerbaijan for 8 years. From his research, he was able to determine that Germany was actually the good guys in WW2, and if not for the Jew run media and film industry, we'd know that the wool was pulled over our eyes. We're noting but sheep, and no match for his intellect.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 6:46 pm to
Yup. You can find more proof in Pawns in the Game by Carr. Thoroughly researched and heavily documented book. Hitler didn't want to make war w England. Repeatedly tried to make peace w England but bankers pulled churchill's strings wnad wanted war. Hitler was actually trying to protect the common man from exploitation by bankers who profit from wars.
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