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re: We now have Putins bitches response
Posted on 3/4/14 at 8:49 am to LSUGrrrl
Posted on 3/4/14 at 8:49 am to LSUGrrrl
We surpassed Russia last year in natural gas production and we also have more reserves...we have severe restrictions on exports that need to be reduced/lifted
Of course it doesn't help the EU right now but it certainly can put a hedge on Putin's thuggish actions in the future and put a dent
in his pocket book...we can also easily put a dent in his currency in the short term BTW.
Of course it doesn't help the EU right now but it certainly can put a hedge on Putin's thuggish actions in the future and put a dent
in his pocket book...we can also easily put a dent in his currency in the short term BTW.
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Posted on 3/4/14 at 8:50 am to RD Dawg
Only if the EU agrees, which they aren't right now. And did we surpass them on natural gas production and export or just production. I honestly don't know.
This post was edited on 3/4/14 at 8:51 am
Posted on 3/4/14 at 8:56 am to RD Dawg
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We surpassed Russia last year in natural gas production and we also have more reserves...we have severe restrictions on exports that need to be reduced/lifted
There are no severe restrictions on NG exports...the restriction that does exist is that there are no operation export facilities in the Lower 48...maybe by 2016 but that's of no consequence in this confrontation. There is one in AK but the license has expired and there isn't enough excess gas at this time to export.
It's going to be tough to bring Putin to heel through sanctions. The economy is pretty much a one-trick pony - energy - and the EU isn't going to turn off their lights and heat to spite Putin.
Putin's greatest strength is that he doesn't give a frick about his people or the world...tough to negotiate with or move a sociopath.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 8:57 am to Jbird
quote:
Moved Naval assets and flew USAF cargo aircraft into Georgia with Humanitarian aid.
is there a humanitarian need here? im not aware of one.
But if i were the pentagon, i would start moving assets in that direction.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 9:00 am to BobBoucher
quote:I am sure there is something needed, the thought was C-17s with an areial port in Georgia would deter the possibilty of Russian troops rolling through the capitol.
is there a humanitarian need here? im not aware of one.
quote:That would take orders from the steely spined commander in chief.
But if i were the pentagon, i would start moving assets in that direction.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 9:01 am to LSUGrrrl
Either way it's leverage against Putin...pretty sure the EU would like to have their energy from a more stable supplier than Putin...
We surpassed in production not exports...we have restrictions/fees that need to be reduced or lifted if we ever wanted to fill that void.
We surpassed in production not exports...we have restrictions/fees that need to be reduced or lifted if we ever wanted to fill that void.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 9:04 am to Jbird
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That would take orders from the steely spined commander in chief.
we could easily do so under the same guise that Putin used to invade: we're there to ensure peace and stability in Ukraine. oh - and we were invited.
would we have to formally recognize the new government of Ukraine first? that might be a sticking point. maybe we need to rush something through congress. if thats even possible anymore.
This post was edited on 3/4/14 at 9:05 am
Posted on 3/4/14 at 9:04 am to RD Dawg
quote:
we have restrictions/fees that need to be reduced or lifted if we ever wanted to fill that void.
No we don't. We don't have completed facilities.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 9:06 am to BobBoucher
quote:Again without leadership it isn't happening.
we could easily do so under the same guise that Putin used to invade: we're there to ensure peace and stability in Ukraine. oh - and we were invited.
quote:Congress will not stand in the way of the President.
would we have to formally recognize the new government of Ukraine first? that might be a sticking point. maybe we need to rush something through congress. if thats even possible anymore.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 9:06 am to RD Dawg
quote:
Geez, amazed at how your talking points are ALMOST always the same.
That's because they just parrot what OFA, CNN and MSNBC tell them.
The latest gem that "criticizing Obama is support for Putin", comes from Sally Kohn.
quote:
Remember when criticizing the president’s behavior on the foreign stage was patriotic and the suggestion that to oppose the behavior of the U.S. government was to side with its enemies was insidious? Sally Kohn doesn’t:
LINK
Posted on 3/4/14 at 9:08 am to LSU_Cubs
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Why don't all of you idiots just move to Russia? Bunch of bandwagon-assed people
Interesting.
From 2000-2008, all we heard from your ilk was that "dissent was the highest form of patriotism".
I guess you conveniently forgot to mention the "unless, of course, my guy is in charge" part. Might not've helped your case any.
This post was edited on 3/4/14 at 9:10 am
Posted on 3/4/14 at 9:11 am to jamboybarry
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Yeah, shite dissent is for punk made bitches yo
Engrish prease.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 9:11 am to Godfather1
So those that proclaimed that it was unpatriotic and detrimental to US policy to criticize the President in such times....have they conveniently forgotten their stance, too?
Again, the most interesting result IMV of the BHO election, was watching the two sides trade arguments.
Again, the most interesting result IMV of the BHO election, was watching the two sides trade arguments.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 9:13 am to LSU_Cubs
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However, I still think if pushed enough, we decimate, especially on a traditional war front as would most likely be the case with Putin.
You don't really think Obama's going to start a war with Russia, do you?
And I haven't heard anyone call for that.
The problem is, his projection of indifference for the last 6 years is what has invited this.
And he really doesn't care that Russia is re-taking the Ukraine.
All he wants to do is spend money domestically. That's it.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 9:35 am to cwill
I think fair criticism of the President is appropriate in these situations. To the extent that the criticism is simple minded partisan bitching, it's serves no purpose, and does unnecessarily undermine the President. There seems to be a lot of bitching without much consideration of the practical options available to Obama and their potential effectiveness.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 10:10 am to LSU_Cubs
Kennedy stared down a bear in Kruschev. Oboe just causes people to laugh at his antics as a clown.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 10:19 am to Godfather1
quote:
Interesting. From 2000-2008, all we heard from your ilk was that "dissent was the highest form of patriotism". I guess you conveniently forgot to mention the "unless, of course, my guy is in charge" part. Might not've helped your case any.
Ah yes, the dreaded "of your ilk" response. I'm doomed now!
Just because I don't slob all over Putin's knob, doesn't mean I'm "of that ilk".
I mean, you can go ahead and join the Putin love festival if you want, but I'll go ahead and sit this one out TYVM
Posted on 3/4/14 at 10:21 am to redandright
quote:
You don't really think Obama's going to start a war with Russia, do you? And I haven't heard anyone call for that.
Speaking in general, just using the current situation as an example.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 10:24 am to CITWTT
I'm glad Obama is doing nothing rather than listen to the warmongers. Nothing is exactly what Ike did in 1956, what LBJ did in 1968, what Carter did in 1979 and what W did in 2008. It's not our problem. By the way, the Russians also did nothing when Bush 41 invaded Panama and when Reagan invaded Grenada. The Russians have their Monroe Doctrine and we have ours, and we found out in 1962 what happens when you try to meddle in a major power's backyard.
Posted on 3/4/14 at 10:25 am to trackfan
quote:Who would that be?
I'm glad Obama is doing nothing rather than listen to the warmongers.
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