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re: We are three days into this thing with Elliot Rodger

Posted on 5/26/14 at 2:46 pm to
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 2:46 pm to
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If he was in need of therapy, and it seems like he was, they were doing a good job. How much more fricked up could he have been had they not done so?


I am a firm believer that too much therapy or medication is as bad or worse than none. Especially if the person has been misdiagnosed from the start.

They were well aware of his insane ramblings on YouTube. After 14 years of therapy and the ramblings are growing even more unbalanced and threatening? At some point someone has to step up and say, this is not working. Maybe we need to hospitalize this person.

Hell, they just bought him a BMW and said, "it will be alright, son."
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 2:49 pm to
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Upon receiving the manifesto, the therapist should have immediately notified the police. Therapists aren't bound by the code of confidentiality in this situation. They notified the mother.

They are actually supposed to notify police if they feel the person is a threat to themselves or someone else. It isn't supposed to be "notify police if you want' situation.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19103 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 2:55 pm to
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They are actually supposed to notify police if they feel the person is a threat to themselves or someone else. It isn't supposed to be "notify police if you want' situation.


This is true. They are under mandate unless it's different in California for some reason.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63602 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 6:27 pm to
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They are actually supposed to notify police if they feel the person is a threat to themselves or someone else. It isn't supposed to be "notify police if you want' situation.

This is true. They are under mandate unless it's different in California for some reason.


At least one of the parents did, in fact, notify police a couple of weeks previously that they were concerned, if I'm not mistaken. The authorities said he didn't meet the criteria required to take him into custody.

I fricking loathe this low rent, ignorant homespun wisdom about "arse whooping" and straightening a kid out when someone doesn't have a fricking clue as to what was going on that home or what the family was dealing with. Schizophrenia, borderline personality disorder, sociopathy, etc, are very, very real. No amount of "arse whooping" will take care of it.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124063 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 6:36 pm to
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I fricking loathe this low rent, ignorant homespun wisdom about "arse whooping" and straightening a kid out when someone doesn't have a fricking clue as to what was going on that home or what the family was dealing with. Schizophrenia, borderline personality disorder, sociopathy, etc, are very, very real. No amount of "arse whooping" will take care of it.
Sadly true.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 6:38 pm to
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I fricking loathe this low rent, ignorant homespun wisdom about "arse whooping" and straightening a kid out when someone doesn't have a fricking clue as to what was going on that home or what the family was dealing with. Schizophrenia, borderline personality disorder, sociopathy, etc, are very, very real. No amount of "arse whooping" will take care of it.


Typical liberal whine. Let me clue in your stupid arse. Nobody give a frick what you think.

Low rent? You white trash piece of garbage, I'm sorry if your parents did not believe in believe in discipline. That explains why your sorry is a liberal in need of a nanny state.

Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63602 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 6:41 pm to
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Typical liberal whine. Let me clue in your stupid arse. Nobody give a frick what you think.

Low rent? You white trash piece of garbage, I'm sorry if your parents did not believe in believe in discipline. That explains why your sorry is a liberal in need of a nanny state.


Christ you're pathetic. I very much believe in discipline, and I had plenty of it. I was on the receive end of a belt more than once.

Honestly, and not to make it personal . . . but to make it personal . . . your posts truly make you seem like just another redneck goober.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 6:45 pm to
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Honestly, and not to make it personal . . . but to make it personal . . . your posts truly make you seem like just another redneck goober.

You came in with your low rent comments.

Now you play it just like a liberal. Try and play victim.

You made it personal. Be man enough to own it.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124063 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 6:47 pm to
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I very much believe in discipline, and I had plenty of it.
A little more and you might could have been a doctor
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 6:51 pm to
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A little more and you might could have been a doctor

A lot more and he wouldn't be a liberal needing a nanny state to help and protect him cradle to grave.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63602 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 6:54 pm to
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A little more and you might could have been a doctor


So you're saying I would have actually tried harder in College Prep Chemistry? You're probably right. I'd be making more money now.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19103 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 7:01 pm to
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I fricking loathe this low rent, ignorant homespun wisdom about "arse whooping" and straightening a kid out when someone doesn't have a fricking clue as to what was going on that home or what the family was dealing with. Schizophrenia, borderline personality disorder, sociopathy, etc, are very, very real. No amount of "arse whooping" will take care of it.

Corporal punishment has its place with discipline. But Eliot's problem wasn't a discipline problem. This kid lacked age appropriate social skills. He tried to teach himself these skills vicariously instead of through first hand interactions. One can easily see this through his videos and I viewed only one. His personal 'ego boundaries' never expanded or developed much further from infant stage.

Step by step, his continual lack of guidance with age appropriate emotional/psychological role models, social feedback, emotional processing, and development created a beast. He was very sick.
This post was edited on 5/26/14 at 7:17 pm
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46513 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 7:04 pm to
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Typical liberal whine. Let me clue in your stupid arse. Nobody give a frick what you think.

Low rent? You white trash piece of garbage, I'm sorry if your parents did not believe in believe in discipline. That explains why your sorry is a liberal in need of a nanny state.


Wow, you're a real POS.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35507 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 7:05 pm to
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Typical liberal whine. Let me clue in your stupid arse. Nobody give a frick what you think.

Low rent? You white trash piece of garbage, I'm sorry if your parents did not believe in believe in discipline. That explains why your sorry is a liberal in need of a nanny state.


Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 7:15 pm to
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Wow, you're a real POS.


GFY, genius.
This post was edited on 5/26/14 at 7:16 pm
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
63602 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 7:30 pm to
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Wow, you're a real POS.


I don't think he mingles with flatlanders well. Too much time on ole Rocky Top dating his cousins.
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 7:33 pm to
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I don't think he mingles with flatlanders well. Too much time on ole Rocky Top dating his cousins.

I've seen your kind on Swamp People.

That you, Glenn?

Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69919 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 7:35 pm to
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I don't think he mingles with flatlanders well. Too much time on ole Rocky Top dating his cousins


Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 7:48 pm to
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I took a lot of arse whoopins.


Shitty parents...
Posted by SavageOrangeJug
Member since Oct 2005
19758 posts
Posted on 5/26/14 at 7:52 pm to
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Shitty parents...

3 older brothers.

Reading comprehension is key.
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