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re: Walls don't work.

Posted on 8/24/17 at 6:24 pm to
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35242 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 6:24 pm to
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That's always a pretty safe bet....
Well the problem is that with this echo chamber, nobody will agree whether I'm right or wrong.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261782 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 6:24 pm to
Every illegal who slips through has to pay $1,000
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 6:25 pm to
Non problem.
Arrest anyone who hires one alien.
No work, no come.
5 years in federal pen for ceo, hiring manager, shift suprvisor. They would be sure not to mess up. Right now, the company pays a slap on wrist fine.
Posted by CollegeFBRules
Member since Oct 2008
24277 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 6:26 pm to
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Every illegal who slips through has to pay $1,000




There's gonna be turnstiles in the tunnels they'll dig under it to make them accountable.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261782 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 6:27 pm to
It's the honor system
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
66982 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 6:29 pm to
That would be absolutely amazing.

Use the army and national guard as border patrol.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 6:34 pm to
No politician is capable of describing the wall at the rio grande.
If you put it midstream it will suffer from the water. The underpinnings would cost 50 times a land wall.
If you build on us side, mexicans can use the water but we cant.

Go ahead. Solve this feature, the entire tex border.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 6:36 pm to
11 million here.
Working.
Wall does not solve.
My plan solves all.
Felony to hire one.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
261782 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 6:41 pm to
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5 years in federal pen for ceo, hiring manager, shift suprvisor. They would be sure not to mess up. Right now, the company pays a slap on wrist fine.


How will you know if they're being honest? You know dean well they aren't going to allow profiling
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39578 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 6:45 pm to
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Everybody, even the far left, seems content with using apprehension as a proxy variable, but it seems like a metric that's too dependent on the error term being random.


Sorry, but a 60+ % drop in recorded apprehensions can't be dismissed with a hand wave and some colorful vocabulary.

Even if it's not because of the wall threat, or the rhetoric, or the additional resources these agents are ramping up for, a strong cost argument simply cannot be made here. Illegals cost the taxpayer untold billions and have stressed public systems to their breaking points. We have leverage in our trade and aid relationship with Mexico (and billions in seized cartel assets that can be liquidated) and can easily have the taxpayer reimbursed for construction.

Walls are used effectively all over the world, and it's a perfectly reasonable element in a broader immigration reform plan that has been working so far. There are also drug and human rights considerations here that liberals don't seem to want to talk about.

The wall is not a new idea, but it's still a good idea. A really good idea.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39578 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 6:47 pm to
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Non problem.
Arrest anyone who hires one alien.
No work, no come.
5 years in federal pen for ceo, hiring manager, shift suprvisor. They would be sure not to mess up. Right now, the company pays a slap on wrist fine.


Lol, what about the millions who aren't working? Drawing resources, welfare, ER's, public schools, etc...
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
12654 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 6:48 pm to
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With a wall, we are playing defense not offense. There is no logical argument against border fortification.


Pretty sure dems see this as voter supression.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72853 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 6:50 pm to
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Even if it's not because of the wall threat, or the rhetoric, or the additional resources these agents are ramping up for


It is, and when none of that happens, those "numbers" will inflate again.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39578 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 6:54 pm to
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It is, and when none of that happens, those "numbers" will inflate again.


Ok, you really need to make up your mind.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
72853 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 7:30 pm to
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Ok, you really need to make up your mind.


Why?
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20264 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 7:38 pm to
This might have been posted already but if walls don't work then these liberals decrying such, especially these Hollywood elitist types, need to tear down their walls, doors, and barriers to their precious dwellings. And while they are at it, they can ditch their guns and/or gun toting body guards as well since we know about gun dangers too. Oh and how can I leave Al Gore and his lite brite house off as well with the whole footprint it leaves...
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
17507 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 7:45 pm to
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19092 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 8:38 pm to
quote:

only way to stop illegal border crossings is [to] first build a fence, man it, equip it

Mine fields work well also.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41221 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 8:42 pm to
No wall on this scale has ever been successful. It's a boondoggle of the first order. The funny thing is, most of these Trump supporters will bitch about gov't spending and reducing the size of gov't. It's Trump's Obamacare.
Posted by coondaddy21
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
3222 posts
Posted on 8/24/17 at 9:28 pm to
The government savings, as a result of the decreased amount of illegals crossing over, will easily pay for the wall.
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