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re: US Presidents in your lifetime - rank them from best to worst

Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:40 pm to
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145238 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:40 pm to
dubya and obama were both equally shitty so i cant really rank them

i guess id put clinton at #1 since he was in my lifetime but my first real memory of politics is the 2000 election so idk
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29709 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:51 pm to
quote:

You have Donald Trump ranked #1 - ahead of the likes of Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton... after three whole months.

Give me a break. I'm not even going to do you the favor of legitimizing this thread by adding my list.
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I know it's too early on Trump, but I am happy so far because he is doing what he said he would do, rare stuff for an elected official

Plus, Trump is by no means a hard core or staunch conservative, he is a classic NY republican, just a little bit further than "center right", and he is spot on about infrastructure (just about as important as I keys interstates)

You are usually one of my favorite "leftists" (but I really consider you to be center left and not really "leftist")

Don't be be angry, let me have my fun...

Let me guess - Clinton 1st, unless you are old enough to list Kennedy and then Obama with Reagan 3rd

Then who?
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:51 pm to
Reagan
Trump(so far)
Clinton
W
HW
Obama
Carter

Clinton gets high marks b/c of pragmatism, not his policy. He would be above Trump if he didn't disrespect the office.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:53 pm to
1. Ronald Wilson Reagan
2. Donald John Trump
3. Richard Milhous Nixon
4. George Herbert Walker Bush
5. George Walker Bush
6. William Jefferson Clinton
7. James Earl Carter
45. Barrack Hussein Obama
Posted by Maytheporkbewithyou
Member since Aug 2016
12644 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:53 pm to
quote:

1. Ronald Reagan
2. Bill Clinton
3. George H. W. Bush
4. George W. Bush
5. Barack Obama
6. Jimmy Carter

(Donald Trump doesn't count yet)


Added Carter, but otherwise exactly how I was going to rank.
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
22176 posts
Posted on 4/26/17 at 11:58 pm to
Damn, you old as frick..

Is your social security # 000-000-0001??
Posted by Ostrich
Alexandria, VA
Member since Nov 2011
8777 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 12:01 am to
Trump
Clinton
Bush
Obama
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
105429 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 12:02 am to
quote:

Reagan







Nixon


Bush 43




Kennedy




Clinton

Bush 41

Ford

LBJ



























Carter





Obama


I agree with this except Ike because I only go back to Kennedy.
Posted by stinkdawg
Savannah, smoking by the gas cans
Member since Aug 2014
4072 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 12:03 am to
Barry shouldn't rate yet. 20 year cut off.
Posted by TigerTalker16
Columbia,MO
Member since Apr 2015
11533 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 12:36 am to
1. FDR
Everyone else
This post was edited on 4/27/17 at 12:39 am
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
76526 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 12:37 am to
Reagan
Nixon
Clinton
Bush 1
Ford
Bush 2
Trump
Obama
Carter
LBJ
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 12:37 am to
1- Obama
2- Clinton
3- HW Bush
4- Reagan
5- W Bush
6- Trump (early, could possibly crack top 5 if he makes dramatic improvements).
Posted by montanagator
Member since Jun 2015
16957 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 12:39 am to
quote:

1. Reagan
2. Clinton
3. Bush I
4. Nixon
5. Obama
6. Bush II
7. Carter
8. Ford




This is the most interesting list on here because it isn't just a straight "What's your ideology, okay now rank the Presidents according to how they match said ideology"
Posted by Celery
Nuevo York
Member since Nov 2010
11097 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 12:50 am to
Clinton
Regan
George H
Obama
George W
Carter
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56419 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 1:10 am to
1. Reagan
2. Clinton
3. Bush I
4. Nixon
5. Ford
6. Bush II
7. Carter
8. Obama
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
35513 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 1:14 am to
quote:


Clinton
Regan
George H
Obama
George W
Carter


Same for me but I don't really remember Carter.
Posted by 5thTiger
Member since Nov 2014
7996 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 1:21 am to
Using the aggregate of historical rankings historians and political sciences, they have quite a different story. But, just using your list, with overall rank denoted.

1. Johnson (12th): Almost universally in the low double digits, with a few top 10's in past 20 years.
My Take: Probably the best in your lifetime. Lots of incredible wins that still stand today. His only big frickup totally taints peoples view about him (vietnam). But tons of wins and major advancements. Surprisingly, only had 2 SCOTUS, Abe Fortas & Thurgood Marshall, so really only 1.

2. Obama (15th): Still way early to accurately place, but limited opinion so far has him in the teens, with none lower than 18th.
Leading out of the Great Recession is his shining moment, with ACA as a good 2nd. Holding him back were certain foreign policy positions. Did have Bin Laden and Cuba though. Still way early to analyze thoroughly.

3. Reagan (17th): Actually one of the more volatile rankers. Varies from 6th to 26th. Early numbers from the 90's drag him down.
Gets too much credit in my opinion. Had some horrid foreign policy. AIDS and War on Drugs were total failures. Don't know how myth of his economic policy got started, but his economy was more of happenstance than his policy...as some of his key theoretical basis have been disproven. Best overlooked aspect though, definitely SCOTUS (minus bork): O'Connor, Rehnquist to chief justice, Scalia, Kennedy

4. Slick Willy (20th): similarly to Reagan, early numbers drag him down. Didn't make any egregious mistakes. Brady Bill and NAFTA were big. Economic prosperity, but did open door to Great Recession.

5. HW (22nd): Didn't get as many wins as he could have. He was left with some of the mess Reagan gave him...which turned out to be his downfall. Kinda weird how people don't remember that part. Big piece of NAFTA. Surprisingly competent president who I think is too low.

6. Ford (26th): getting to the "not good" section. Reasons why he wasn't memorable.

7. Carter (27th):Weird how the Iran hostage crisis gets pinned on him, when Reagan was backdoor undermining him. One termers often get more blame than is warranted.

8. Nixon (32nd): Lots of bad. Even getting the coattails of the objectively very good Kennedy-Johnson admins, he sucked. Lots of poor decisions, domestic and foreign.

9. W (34th): Medicare Part D is about the only surviving win. highlights include: Iraq, 9/11, No child left behind, etc.

You do you though.

Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69342 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 1:34 am to
5thTiger, based on your post history and your ranking, you appear to be an economist who favors dramatic and extensive state intervention in the economy. Great society, ACA, etc.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69342 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 1:40 am to
I also find it interesting that you downplay the presidents who oversaw economic recoveries without extensive keynesian policy (Reagan and Clinton), and you hype up Obama and Johnson.

Your ranking seems to be a bit biased in favor of leftist economic policy. Which is fine, just surprises me because john Kasich is nowhere close to Johnson.
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
21857 posts
Posted on 4/27/17 at 2:12 am to
quote:

You are a walking Political Talk stereotype.


Did you just assume his leg capability?
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