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U.S. Military solution to North Korea would be ‘tragic on an unbelievable scale’
Posted on 5/22/17 at 1:06 pm
Posted on 5/22/17 at 1:06 pm
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) – U.S. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said on Friday that any military solution to the North Korea crisis would be “tragic on an unbelievable scale” and Washington was working internationally to find a diplomatic solution.
North Korea has defied all calls to rein in its nuclear and missile programs, even from China, its lone major ally, calling them legitimate self-defense.
It has been working to develop a nuclear-tipped missile capable of striking the U.S. mainland, and experts say its test on Sunday of a new missile was another important step toward that aim.
“We are going to continue to work the issue,” Mattis told a Pentagon news conference.
“If this goes to a military solution, it’s going to be tragic on an unbelievable scale. So our effort is to work with the U.N., work with China, work with Japan, work with South Korea to try to find a way out of this situation.”
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Posted on 5/22/17 at 1:07 pm to wickowick
5027
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Posted on 5/22/17 at 1:08 pm to wickowick
Clinton, Bush, and Obama should be flogged in public for letting it get to this point.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 1:09 pm to wickowick
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U.S. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said on Friday that any military solution to the North Korea crisis would be “tragic on an unbelievable scale”
He is right but unfortunately it looks like we are headed in that direction.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 1:09 pm to wickowick
Tough situation for sure.
Had it been dealt with 10 years ago it wouldn't be as hard to now. Same goes for 10 years from now
In a decade it could be "tragic on an global scale." Imagine Kim with functioning ICBs and warheads pointed at the large metro areas all across Asia and the western US. Imagine when he eventually perfects sub surface launches from his sub fleet.
With the revolving door of the Oval Office I could understand not wanting to be the one to rip off the bandaid, it won't be painless for any admin. Someone will have to one day though
Had it been dealt with 10 years ago it wouldn't be as hard to now. Same goes for 10 years from now
In a decade it could be "tragic on an global scale." Imagine Kim with functioning ICBs and warheads pointed at the large metro areas all across Asia and the western US. Imagine when he eventually perfects sub surface launches from his sub fleet.
With the revolving door of the Oval Office I could understand not wanting to be the one to rip off the bandaid, it won't be painless for any admin. Someone will have to one day though
This post was edited on 5/22/17 at 1:13 pm
Posted on 5/22/17 at 1:13 pm to WeeWee
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He is right but unfortunately it looks like we are headed in that direction.
They've been laying the path to war for sometime now. I don't think our military is ready yet since they're still technically in sequestration. Once the $ starts flowing again and recruiting is up, they'll give the Green Light to go kinetic with conventional forces.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 1:14 pm to Wolfhound45
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5027
I c wut u did ther
Posted on 5/22/17 at 1:15 pm to bamarep
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Clinton, Bush, and Obama should be flogged in public for letting it get to this point.
wait what
the massive cluster frick of a war with NK is down to how close they are to Seoul and the numbers and assets that have had.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 1:18 pm to Lsuchs
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Tough situation for sure. Had it been dealt with 10 years ago it wouldn't be as hard to now. Same goes for 10 years from now
Its always been a shite sandwich that the military knew would be tragic if war happened.
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In a decade it could be "tragic on an global scale." Imagine Kim with functioning ICBs and warheads pointed at the large metro areas all across Asia and the western US. Imagine when he eventually perfects sub surface launches from his sub fleet.
Those fricks can't even get rockets off the Korean peninsula.
This post was edited on 5/22/17 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 5/22/17 at 1:18 pm to Centinel
It is open source. Nothing to actually learn from it. And it will not survive the first 170mm shell.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 1:21 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Those fricks can't even get rockets of the Korean peninsula.
A decade ago they didn't have the technology to detonate a nuclear explosion. Where was their ICBM tech at that point?
They are only going to get more advanced and more capable. Yes so will our defenses, but I can't speak for the rest of the world. So if we were ever to have to make a move with the best interest of our west coast cities in mind it will only be more collateral damage for us to deal with in Asia
Posted on 5/22/17 at 1:28 pm to wickowick
Imagine if you were drinking a cold one down a dirt road sitting on the tailgate with your girl and jamming to some ruke stirfryan and you heard that the us was gonna nuke you because you refused to take loans from the international banking cabal
If North Korea is so bad why does Dennis rodman go there so much?
If North Korea is so bad why does Dennis rodman go there so much?
Posted on 5/22/17 at 1:40 pm to Lsuchs
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A decade ago they didn't have the technology to detonate a nuclear explosion. Where was their ICBM tech at that point?
I hear you, but it was a tragic situation 10 years ago.
Every President listed had a really difficult decision to make on North Korea, and chose to wait out regime change. I don't think we can tell yet whether that will prove to be bad decision making or not.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 1:44 pm to wickowick
How do you people find these websites? Crusaderjournal.com? 
Posted on 5/22/17 at 1:46 pm to Pettifogger
Meanwhile Russians, Russians everywhere 
Posted on 5/22/17 at 1:46 pm to wickowick
Indeed.
I stated the obvious in the NK thread yesterday: Military action in NK would unleash hell on East Asia.
Pyongyang would strike hard and fast ... all or nothing.
I stated the obvious in the NK thread yesterday: Military action in NK would unleash hell on East Asia.
Pyongyang would strike hard and fast ... all or nothing.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 1:50 pm to Pettifogger
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Every President listed had a really difficult decision to make on North Korea, and chose to wait out regime change. I don't think we can tell yet whether that will prove to be bad decision making or not.
I hear you too and agree. I'm not advocating an invasion, just giving the cons of letting them continue to develop unchallenged.
I don't think waiting for a regime change is a terrible move, they would know more about the likelyhood of that happening than me. I think a good shot would have been during the transition from il to un. Looks like Un has solidified himself already through purges though.
This post was edited on 5/22/17 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 5/22/17 at 1:55 pm to bamarep
quote:Correct.
Clinton, Bush, and Obama should be flogged in public for letting it get to this point.
I like the comments out Mattis. I really like the fact that we are forcing them into isolation from the Chinese, that makes our options easier.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 2:14 pm to wickowick
It won't be that tragic. Taking out the Jong regime will be fairly easy. The question is what happens after that? China may have to house some refugees for a while, but with international help (troops, money) we can make this a humane transition.
If there was ever a people that NEEDED the U.S., it was the NK's. This is not a neocon "grab their oil" type of ploy we've seen in the past. Our troops really would be fighting for freedom in this case.
If we can get Europe and China to do their fair share here (troops, money, logistics), I am all for going in and taking that mofo out.
If there was ever a people that NEEDED the U.S., it was the NK's. This is not a neocon "grab their oil" type of ploy we've seen in the past. Our troops really would be fighting for freedom in this case.
If we can get Europe and China to do their fair share here (troops, money, logistics), I am all for going in and taking that mofo out.
Posted on 5/22/17 at 2:15 pm to AUstar
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It won't be that tragic.
Thanks, General. I feel better now.
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