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US Military Establishment Study Admits The American Empire Is “Collapsing”
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:51 am
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:51 am
"Though the report throws the word “adapt” around often, the U.S. is clearly not willing to adapt at all if the only way it can deal with its issues is to strengthen the very sources of said issues in the first place. If the only tool the U.S. has is a hammer, every problem has to look like a nail. The more problems the U.S. faces, the more nails it sees in need of quashing.
While some may laud a report in which advisors to the U.S. have acknowledged America’s status as a dying power, the truth, as demonstrated in this recent analysis, is that the U.S. will not give up its place in global affairs without a fight.
As the report states, the reality of this looming collapse should not be seen as defeatism, but rather, should be a “wake up call.”
Take the Syrian conflict, for example. The more places Assad’s military liberates, the more refugees are returning home and the more concerts are being held. Syria, Russia, and Iran have achieved these mounting successes even in the face of direct American intervention – and yet the U.S. still refuses to leave the country. Irrespective of crimes committed by the pro-Assad axis, if the ultimate objective has been to reduce the suffering in Syria and end the war, the U.S. should admit defeat and move on — especially once ISIS’ caliphate collapses entirely. But the U.S. won’t – and is reportedly considering greater involvement in the war-torn country.
The U.S. knows it is on the brink of collapse but refuses to go down peacefully. From the point of view of the powers-that-be, as long as every nail of resistance can be broken, the American hammer will continue to lead the world in international affairs. But even as this report indicates, it is precisely because of America’s hubris that it has found itself in this position in the first place. In this context, the report is somewhat contradictory and only further encourages the United States to provoke further hostility from aggrieved players on the world stage.
Carrying on these practices and exacerbating them is totally nonsensical, but doing so continues to be the go-to mantra of the U.S. war machine."
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Murika! Pow Pow!
While some may laud a report in which advisors to the U.S. have acknowledged America’s status as a dying power, the truth, as demonstrated in this recent analysis, is that the U.S. will not give up its place in global affairs without a fight.
As the report states, the reality of this looming collapse should not be seen as defeatism, but rather, should be a “wake up call.”
Take the Syrian conflict, for example. The more places Assad’s military liberates, the more refugees are returning home and the more concerts are being held. Syria, Russia, and Iran have achieved these mounting successes even in the face of direct American intervention – and yet the U.S. still refuses to leave the country. Irrespective of crimes committed by the pro-Assad axis, if the ultimate objective has been to reduce the suffering in Syria and end the war, the U.S. should admit defeat and move on — especially once ISIS’ caliphate collapses entirely. But the U.S. won’t – and is reportedly considering greater involvement in the war-torn country.
The U.S. knows it is on the brink of collapse but refuses to go down peacefully. From the point of view of the powers-that-be, as long as every nail of resistance can be broken, the American hammer will continue to lead the world in international affairs. But even as this report indicates, it is precisely because of America’s hubris that it has found itself in this position in the first place. In this context, the report is somewhat contradictory and only further encourages the United States to provoke further hostility from aggrieved players on the world stage.
Carrying on these practices and exacerbating them is totally nonsensical, but doing so continues to be the go-to mantra of the U.S. war machine."
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Murika! Pow Pow!
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:52 am to WhiskeyPapa
“In brief, the United States, when the falsified US Government economic data are stripped away, is falling deeper into debt and decay as money and Wall Street mega-banks reign supreme like Gods of Money. Russia in contrast is growing slowly but definitely out of its economic and infrastructure deficit of the past decades, in fact of the past century since the Western-backed Lenin coup d’etat of 1917. While the United States over the past five decades has been tearing down its once prospering cities, infrastructure and industry, Russia is building up its national economy on an advanced technological basis with some of the most creative scientific and engineering minds on Earth. As Moody’s or S&P language might put it, “USA economy: Outlook Negative going forward; Russia economy: Outlook Positive going forward.”
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Murika! Pow Pow!
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Murika! Pow Pow!
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:53 am to WhiskeyPapa
So true. American exceptionalism has been too watered down by lazy communists
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:54 am to WhiskeyPapa
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"Though the report throws the word “adapt” around often, the U.S. is clearly not willing to adapt at all
If you look at the number of leftist policies put in place over the last 8 yrs I'd say the American Empire has "adapted"....not for the good mind you.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:56 am to WhiskeyPapa
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In brief, the United States, when the falsified US Government economic data are stripped away
Yes
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is falling deeper into debt and decay as money and Wall Street mega-banks reign supreme like Gods of Money.
No
Funny how they always talk about "Wall Street" but never about Silicon Valley. I wonder what difference exists between the two corporate centers of US business...?
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:59 am to WhiskeyPapa
Russia GDP-1.2 TRILLION
US GDP-18.57 TRILLION
yeah Russia is a huge threat.
US GDP-18.57 TRILLION
yeah Russia is a huge threat.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:01 am to RuLSU
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Funny how they always talk about "Wall Street" but never about Silicon Valley. I wonder what difference exists between the two corporate centers of US business...?
You can't eat silicon.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:04 am to WhiskeyPapa
Lol let us tell our Navy to stop being policemen of the seas, take our money out of NATO and the UN and stop giving away billions in foreign gov aid. Then we can sit back and watch the world burn
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:30 am to WhiskeyPapa
There's never been an American "empire" (with the exception of the Spanish seizures after the Spanish-American War).
If you want to speak of American hegemony, well then that's a big "no shite" on that one and has been happening since the late 60s/early 70s.
If you want to speak of American hegemony, well then that's a big "no shite" on that one and has been happening since the late 60s/early 70s.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:41 am to Midtiger farm
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Lol let us tell our Navy to stop being policemen of the seas, take our money out of NATO and the UN and stop giving away billions in foreign gov aid. Then we can sit back and watch the world burn
"While the United States over the past five decades has been tearing down its once prospering cities, infrastructure and industry, Russia is building up its national economy on an advanced technological basis with some of the most creative scientific and engineering minds on Earth."
The United States is in decline because of the overseas commitments required to fuel the Military Industrial Complex. frick, one of the sorry-arse Repub congressmen said the other day that we can't afford Medicare.
"If the Party chose, all its people could live in luxury, but they instead choose to lower the quality of living: it is important that the lower classes remain stupefied by poverty and the struggle for mere survival; if they were to become too comfortable, they might learn to think for themselves and rebel against the Party."
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:10 am to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
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So true. American exceptionalism has been too watered down by lazy communists
Just so you know. Your statement isn't rational.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:24 am to WhiskeyPapa
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So true. American exceptionalism has been too watered down by lazy communists
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So true. American exceptionalism has been too watered down by lazy liberals
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So true. American exceptionalism has been too watered down by lazy democrats
We can play semantics all day long, but it's all the same, and there's nothing irrational or incorrect about it.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:25 am to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
And by lazy, non-communist Americans.
We have plenty of those too, and they don't deserve a free pass.
We have plenty of those too, and they don't deserve a free pass.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:29 am to WhiskeyPapa
Lol. Russia is in shambles.
And this "Geopolitical Magazine" is HQed in Moscow. It's a propaganda rag.
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Address: 12, Rozhdestvenka Street, office 111, Moscow Phone: +7 (495) 624-40-91 LINK /
And this "Geopolitical Magazine" is HQed in Moscow. It's a propaganda rag.
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 9:34 am
Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:35 am to WhiskeyPapa
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The United States is in decline because of the overseas commitments required to fuel the Military Industrial Complex. frick, one of the sorry-arse Repub congressmen said the other day that we can't afford Medicare.
That's one area I totally agree with the left on.
We waste billions of dollars developing weapons that never work or never see meaningful combat usage.
There are a number of ways the US Government could continue to push for newer and better weapons while cutting costs... but that would require our government to vote against Defense Contractors, who lobby the joint congress as hard as any industry on Earth.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 9:40 am to Jackalope
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And this "Geopolitical Magazine" is HQed in Moscow. It's a propaganda rag.
"The report, published in June by the U.S. Army War College’s Strategic Studies Institute, evaluated the Department of Defense’s (DOD) approach to risk assessment at all levels of Pentagon policy planning. The study was supported and sponsored by the U.S. Army’s Strategic Plans and Policy Directorate; the Joint Staff, J5 (Strategy and Policy Branch); the Office of the Deputy Secretary of Defense for Strategy and Force Development; and the Army Study Program Management Office."
Here is the original link:
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As explained by Nathan Freier, the project director and principal author of the report, the U.S. and its defense establishment “are stumbling through a period of hypercompetition.”
"His last military assignment was as director of national security affairs at the Army War College’s Strategic Studies Institute (SSI). Freier is a veteran of numerous strategy development and strategic planning efforts at Headquarters, Department of the Army (DA); the Office of the Secretary of Defense (OSD); and two senior-level military staffs in Iraq. Prior to joining SSI, he served in the Office of the Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Strategy. His principal responsibilities included development of the 2005 National Defense Strategy. Prior to that, he was a U.S. Army fellow/visiting scholar at the University of Maryland’s Center for International and Security Studies (CISSM) and a strategist with DA's Strategic Plans, Concepts, and Doctrine Directorate. At CISSM, he examined strategic risk and terrorism. At DA, his duties included army preparation for, participation in, and response to the 2001 Quadrennial Defense Review and army and joint strategic planning for the war on terrorism. Freier twice deployed to Iraq. From January to July 2005, he served in the Strategy, Plans, and Assessments Directorate of Headquarters, Multi-National Force–Iraq, and from May to August 2007, he served as a special assistant to the commander, Multi-National Corps–Iraq. Prior to his service as an army strategist, Freier held various leadership and staff positions as a field artillery officer in the United States, Europe, and the first Persian Gulf War. He continues to provide expert advice to the national security and defense communities on a range of issues. Among his research interests and areas of expertise are defense and military strategy and policy development; strategic net and risk assessment; unconventional and hybrid threats and conflicts; and anti-access/area denial challenges. He holds masters’ degrees in both international relations and politics and is a graduate of the U.S. Army’s Command and General Staff College."
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 9:44 am
Posted on 7/20/17 at 10:11 am to TigerFanatic99
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and there's nothing irrational or incorrect about it.
it's both irrational and incorrect actually
Posted on 7/20/17 at 10:19 am to WhiskeyPapa
Why do you copy and paste so many quotes, but don't use the quote function? It makes it difficult differentiate you from the article.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 10:26 am to WhiskeyPapa
Yes, Whiskey Papa, the USA is in decline. Some say it is suicidal.
Have you ever pondered how the USA might have a stronger sense of self-preservation today had the Confederate States of America survived to serve as a "counter-point" of some kind?
Have you ever pondered how the USA might have a stronger sense of self-preservation today had the Confederate States of America survived to serve as a "counter-point" of some kind?
Posted on 7/20/17 at 10:27 am to WhiskeyPapa
This reads like straight Russian propoganda.
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