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Unexpected source of job growth for Trump - IT sector
Posted on 1/25/17 at 11:33 am
Posted on 1/25/17 at 11:33 am
Of course, this one will require people to get in gear.
A blurb on the WSJ stated that Cybersecurity jobs are going to be the big market in the US (I live near about 2 hours from DC, and most recent job hunt confirms part of this even prior to Trump's inauguration).
We already need a lot of CS professionals; it's a mid to high level skill set in the IT industry. You start off with a middle tier certification (like Security+) but rapidly have to increase those skills to include networking certifications, ethical hacking certifications, and others.
The big deal is that it is expected for Trump's administration to clamp down on hiring foreign personnel. This is not simply for cheap labor, as a lot presume, but could also impact high-level positions, like those in the rapidly growing Cyber Security field.
At present, the regions where they are needed don't have enough trained individuals to fill these roles (especially in areas like DC, where one also has to obtain Public Trust, Secret, or Top Secret clearances).
Anyway, the point is that for those with the skill, there's a job field ripe for barreling into. And with a potential moratorium on foreign-based expertise, time to get into gear.
A blurb on the WSJ stated that Cybersecurity jobs are going to be the big market in the US (I live near about 2 hours from DC, and most recent job hunt confirms part of this even prior to Trump's inauguration).
We already need a lot of CS professionals; it's a mid to high level skill set in the IT industry. You start off with a middle tier certification (like Security+) but rapidly have to increase those skills to include networking certifications, ethical hacking certifications, and others.
The big deal is that it is expected for Trump's administration to clamp down on hiring foreign personnel. This is not simply for cheap labor, as a lot presume, but could also impact high-level positions, like those in the rapidly growing Cyber Security field.
At present, the regions where they are needed don't have enough trained individuals to fill these roles (especially in areas like DC, where one also has to obtain Public Trust, Secret, or Top Secret clearances).
Anyway, the point is that for those with the skill, there's a job field ripe for barreling into. And with a potential moratorium on foreign-based expertise, time to get into gear.
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Posted on 1/25/17 at 11:41 am to skrayper
I'm in the Cybersecurity industry and there is a huge deficit in qualified people. We have many positions open, some have been open for ~6 months or more. I have companies and recruiters calling me every damn day.
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 11:41 am
Posted on 1/25/17 at 11:50 am to fooz
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I'm in the Cybersecurity industry and there is a huge deficit in qualified people. We have many positions open, some have been open for ~6 months or more. I have companies and recruiters calling me every damn day.
I had trouble getting work just because I love the area we're in and didn't want to move to a big city. I was VERY close to migrating to DC to get a job when I got one in Charlottesville, so I could stay in the Shenandoah Valley. Beautiful area, terrible IT job availability.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:02 pm to skrayper
Live in the DMV, work in IT in the DMV. IT job market is strong.
Specifically for Cybersecurity, it's a no brainer we will see an uptick in job opps.
Specifically for Cybersecurity, it's a no brainer we will see an uptick in job opps.
This post was edited on 1/25/17 at 12:05 pm
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:03 pm to skrayper
Same for South Louisiana. Instead of using specialists, companies required to have an IT security program use server/network admins. While we have enough knowledge to get by, it's tough to stay ahead of the curve when this is only part of our job.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:05 pm to skrayper
I'll be happy to secure government and privately owned servers.
(Please ignore the "Russian" part of my screen name.)
(Please ignore the "Russian" part of my screen name.)
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:09 pm to skrayper
Nashville IT here and the market has been insanity for the last 10 years. That being said, I have been wondering if Trumps position on foreign labor will creep into the IT sector and make things even crazier.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 12:30 pm to skrayper
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The big deal is that it is expected for Trump's administration to clamp down on hiring foreign personnel.
Good. I have been in IT since the late 90s and have seen it transition into where I am the "Token American".
We have plenty of people from this country that will do these jobs.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:15 pm to skrayper
From InfoWorld Now hiring: 1 million cybersecurity job openings in 2017
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:33 pm to skrayper
What would be the best way to break into cyber security? I'm new in the IT world (about 4 years) and have a degree in IS with a specialty in networking, however I haven't obtained any of my certifications yet. Cyber Security was always an interest of mine.
Do you have any idea what certs I should go for first?
Do you have any idea what certs I should go for first?
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:34 pm to fooz
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I'm in the Cybersecurity industry and there is a huge deficit in qualified people. We have many positions open, some have been open for ~6 months or more. I have companies and recruiters calling me every damn day.
how much education do you need for that
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:35 pm to DarthRebel
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We have plenty of people from this country that will do these jobs.
Part of the problem is that we really don't, at least not at the upper tier.
The industry is growing WAY faster than the influx of people who are trained to run it. There are plenty of people, yes, but very few Cisco experts, Security experts - at least compared to demand.
When you have upteen gazillion workers but all say you need to give them jobs they're already trained for instead of learning new skills, there's the crux of the matter.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 1:52 pm to skrayper
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Part of the problem is that we really don't, at least not at the upper tier.
Currently we are at a shortage, but we have the numbers to fill those roles within a short time.
Part is our education system that needs to be revamped. Liberal Arts needs to be abandoned and STEM promoted. Eastern Hemisphere countries are good at this
Make IT lucrative again. The rise in foreign labor was a large part done from capitalism. Why pay an American $1, when you can get an Eastern Hemisphere person for $.80. Americans walked away from IT, because it became a lot of work for lower pay.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 2:04 pm to TigerIT
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What would be the best way to break into cyber security? I'm new in the IT world (about 4 years) and have a degree in IS with a specialty in networking, however I haven't obtained any of my certifications yet. Cyber Security was always an interest of mine.
Do you have any idea what certs I should go for first?
I'm currently a cybersecurity engineer/analyst. GCIH, CISSP, GCED, GCFA, and a few more besides.
To answer your question, before you move in to the realm of cybersecurity make sure you have a rock-solid understanding of networks and systems. You can't point out the abnormality if you don't understand what's normal. Sounds like you should be good to go on the networking side, just make sure you have that same grasp on the systems side.
As for certs, if you (or your job) can swing a SANS course, start there. It's not cheap though. GCIH is a good start. That or the GCED. If funding is an issue, start with Security+. It's an entry-level security cert, but will get you started. From there work towards a CISSP. More of a management cert, but it will get you past all the HR nazis since it's the cert-de-jour at the moment.
Stay away from the CEH unless you're going government. Absolutely garbage. If you want to go the pen-test route, GPEN from SANS or OSCP from Offensive Security are the ways to go.
Posted on 1/25/17 at 2:16 pm to thelawnwranglers
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how much education do you need for that
Ultimately depends on the role you want within it. IT is a like the health industry... a lot of people might be called a "Doctor", but there's a gazillion specializations mixed in with the generalists.
You can aim for a degree. Lower cost ones are at places like WGU, but they presume a level of professional knowledge before you get started. Full fledged degree programs exist in a lot of places.
If you don't want to go full degree route, you're better off getting in the entry level and getting your A+, then working in the IT industry as much as possible, preferably with a mixed IT department (that includes break/fix/helpdesk alongside your networking specialists). Build into networking, as my fellow IT nerd stated, as that's the backbone of it. Network+ is the entry cert for Networking, but there are better ones - aim for Cisco.
Once you get even to entry level of Cyber Security, you're in like flynn. There's so many jobs out there, once you're at that point they're likely to bring you in for on-the-job training. There's a few places that will bring you in earlier, if you're in a big city (NYC, LA, etc) where they might give you 6 months and teach you how to do penetration testing and other forms of White Hat Hacking, though honestly I'm not 100% sure how many of these large shops for this there are still around.
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