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re: Ukraine's parliament has voted to oust President Yanukovych

Posted on 2/22/14 at 10:14 pm to
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 2/22/14 at 10:14 pm to
I would love to see a democracy spring up on Putin's doorstep. However, no US involvement is necessary.

If Iraq has taught you nothing else...you can't make people want to be free. They have to do it themselves.
Posted by Sentrius
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Posted on 2/22/14 at 10:20 pm to
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democracy




Democracies have a horrible track record and are pretty much a scourge. They don't last long at all.

Constitutional republic with strong states is the best form of gov't there is.
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 2/22/14 at 10:20 pm to
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you can't make people want to be free. They have to do it themselves.

If the hundreds of thousands of protesters across Ukraine along with the hundred or so deaths of people shot down in the streets doesn't convince you how much the Ukrainian people want to be free nothing will.
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 2/22/14 at 10:40 pm to
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But let's try to pretend you remember for a moment who bears the responsibility for them being there.
Well that clearly gives Obama the flexibilty to try to stay in Iraq, Bush started it.
Posted by asurob1
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Member since May 2009
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Posted on 2/22/14 at 10:45 pm to
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If the hundreds of thousands of protesters across Ukraine along with the hundred or so deaths of people shot down in the streets doesn't convince you how much the Ukrainian people want to be free nothing will.


Good...then no American troops are necessary.

Unless you are volunteering. I noticed you still haven't bought that ticket.
Posted by asurob1
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Member since May 2009
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Posted on 2/22/14 at 10:46 pm to
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Well that clearly gives Obama the flexibilty to try to stay in Iraq, Bush started it.


shrug. We should have never been in Iraq. But if you would like to discuss W's war at length, start a thread.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 2/22/14 at 10:46 pm to
Naw I prefer to stick with all the glowing success the Inept one has had on the world stage.
This post was edited on 2/22/14 at 10:48 pm
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