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Turncoat LA Law Enforcement Officials Support JBE’s Veto of Constitutional Carry

Posted on 7/9/21 at 7:01 am
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11888 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 7:01 am
(Also posted this on the outdoor board but need to get the topic on everyone’s radar)

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Giving them the name “turncoat” may be a bit generous since I doubt they ever supported the legislation but go here to let your voices be heard:

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For those unaware, there are now 20 states with permitless (constitutional) carry. Many of these states have had these laws for years.

The calls of doom and gloom and blood in the streets is all theater. There is no proof that crime will increase as a result of this law. If a person still believes it despite the evidence, they believe that the people of the Louisiana are a special statistical exception to the rule that has already been established in other states. Citizens can responsibly handle more freedom, despite what our public servant overlords may say.

Support overriding JBE’s veto for freedom.
Posted by Dogwalk
Perkins, LA
Member since Jun 2016
1093 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 7:05 am to
Don’t blame me…I voted for the adulterer.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10145 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 7:10 am to
quote:

Sheriff Sid Gautreaux said. "It's hard enough for us to do our jobs... Can you imagine going into a shooting situation, and you walk in a room and everybody's holding a gun? You're not going to know who the bad guy—who the good guys are."


I like you Sid...but this is a bullshite argument.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
58863 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 7:12 am to
Well, the fact that our murders especially have risen to ridiculous numbers and they don’t seem to be very worried about that, what would make anyone think that they were concerned with Joe Citizen’s safety and well being by denying them a constitutional right to conceal carry?

It’s not as if these murders and lawlessness is keeping them up at night.

Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32535 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 7:17 am to
quote:

Can you imagine going into a shooting situation, and you walk in a room and everybody's holding a gun? You're not going to know who the bad guy—who the good guys are."


Yeah Sid, because the bad guys are obeying the CC laws, right?

CC laws only hurt law abiding citizens. Should people get training with a firearm before they start packing? Sure!
However, this is Louisiana. Most of us have been shooting guns since elementary school.

This is all about fees.
Posted by OldHickory
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2012
10602 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 7:23 am to
We need a list of all these traitors.
Posted by rmc
Truth or Consequences
Member since Sep 2004
26504 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 7:26 am to
Hopefully people are getting messages to their elected officials in the legislature on how they feel about this.
Posted by IslandBuckeye
Boca Chica, Panama
Member since Apr 2018
10067 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 7:31 am to
Remember Katrina.

The Governor of US Virgin Islands tried to do the same thing with Irma/Maria. It was Hegelian. Thankfully it failed.
This post was edited on 7/9/21 at 7:33 am
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34901 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 7:42 am to
quote:

Sheriff Sid Gautreaux said. "It's hard enough for us to do our jobs... Can you imagine going into a shooting situation, and you walk in a room and everybody's holding a gun? You're not going to know who the bad guy—who the good guys are."


Pure bs. As "everybody" will be unloading on "the bad guy". And this aside, what happens BEFORE Sid's guy's "walk into a room".

Sid ought to keep his mouth shut, lest he expose his ignorance; and welcome support from the good folk.
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 7:47 am to
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Among those in attendance were East Baton Rouge Sheriff Sid Gautreaux, Baton Rouge Police Chief Murphy Paul and other heads of capital area law enforcement agencies. They were unified in opposition to Senator Jay Morris's proposal,


What are your Sheriffs association and Chiefs association official stances on the issue? This article and picture just illustrate to me he has a few urban Democrat chiefs and one idiot sheriff on board.


quote:

This poses an exponential threat to every law enforcement officer in the state," Sheriff Sid Gautreaux said. "It's hard enough for us to do our jobs... Can you imagine going into a shooting situation, and you walk in a room and everybody's holding a gun? You're not going to know who the bad guy—who the good guys are.


Again, Sheriff Sid Gautreaux is a blooming idiot

This post was edited on 7/9/21 at 7:53 am
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32712 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 7:47 am to
This will actually sway the opinion of some legislators who rely on the private prison lobby. Most concealed carry charges are just added on, extending a prison sentence.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29288 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 7:50 am to
This is all about money…..I’m not sure how much of the “training”/license money goes to the sheriffs but I don’t think it is insignificant.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 7:58 am to
quote:

Sheriff Sid Gautreaux said. "It's hard enough for us to do our jobs... Can you imagine going into a shooting situation, and you walk in a room and everybody's holding a gun? You're not going to know who the bad guy—who the good guys are."

Hey Sid I know this is breakingfrickingnews but the good guys won't be holding their guns sideways....see how easy it is to spot the bad guys? Dumb frick
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 8:04 am to
quote:

I like you Sid...but this is a bullshite argument.


He has crossed over to the "dark" side.
Time to replace his useless arse too.
Posted by CrusaderInfidel
Tishomingo
Member since Feb 2015
248 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 8:15 am to
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This post was edited on 7/11/21 at 8:51 pm
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16369 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 8:25 am to
quote:

Sheriff Sid Gautreaux said. "It's hard enough for us to do our jobs... Can you imagine going into a shooting situation, and you walk in a room and everybody's holding a gun? You're not going to know who the bad guy—who the good guys are."

Seeing that open carry is legal in LA, this is a strawman argument. The good guys involved in the shootout could have been open carrying, or already had a CCP, and then engaged in the shootout.

Also, if/when the police arrive, once they announce their presence the "good guys" will most likely yield to law enforcement. Then, your guys can do their job to vet the situation to determine the good from bad guys. This statement indicates he wants his guys to have the freedom to show up guns blazin to every situation.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
4106 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 9:34 am to
quote:

Sheriff Sid Gautreaux said. "It's hard enough for us to do our jobs... Can you imagine going into a shooting situation, and you walk in a room and everybody's holding a gun? You're not going to know who the bad guy—who the good guys are."


So Sid is implying that he knows now who the bad guys are because they all are holding their guns up for him to see?
Posted by limbaughnomicon
Member since Feb 2020
152 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 9:43 am to
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This post was edited on 4/13/22 at 9:16 am
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
28504 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 9:53 am to
quote:

Hopefully people are getting messages to their elected officials in the legislature on how they feel about this.


Mine responded in about 10 minutes affirming their support of an override.
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5343 posts
Posted on 7/9/21 at 9:54 am to
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Seeing that open carry is legal in LA, this is a strawman argument. 


A shame I could only upvote once.

The same argument they are making is the same one used when Florida led the way with shall issue permits. We have over 30 states today with shall issue with none of the wild west predictions happened and even today with over 20 states with not just open carry but constitutional carry, it hasn't materialized.

As far as training goes, some carry classes are a total joke to begin with. A guy I work with got a permit. Heres the problem. He gets a new pistol and comes tell me about his trip to the range where a guy next to him showed him what a center hold was and how when you focus on the front sight, the area around it gets blurry. In other words he had a carry permit yet had no idea on how to use the sights on his gun.

Like the rest of gun control measures its not about safety but control.
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