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Turkey to send ground troops to fight ISIS.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 12:33 pm
Posted on 10/2/14 at 12:33 pm
No link, just heard on Fox News.
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 12:34 pm to bhtigerfan
Thats pretty legit.
Obama showing leadership in getting other nations involved.
Obama showing leadership in getting other nations involved.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 12:34 pm to bhtigerfan
attatturk
Posted on 10/2/14 at 12:36 pm to FT
quote:I'm pretty sure you're being sarcastic. The last I heard, which was yesterday, Turkey was not even allowing the U.S. to use their air bases for our planes which are bombing ISIS.
Obama showing leadership in getting other nations involved.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 12:38 pm to LSURussian
quote:
I'm pretty sure you're being sarcastic. The last I heard, which was yesterday, Turkey was not even allowing the U.S. to use their air bases for our planes which are bombing ISIS.
This board was all for air involvement, as long as other nations were the ground troops. They all said there was no way Obama was going to make that work because he wasn't a leader and is incompetent. Now that that's beginning to take shape, you have to find some new angle to be upset about.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 12:45 pm to JEAUXBLEAUX
Better them than us. About time another nation steps up against these animals.
This post was edited on 10/2/14 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 10/2/14 at 12:47 pm to FT
Calm down, Francis. I'm not upset. It's just contradictory to think Obama was the invisible hand which got Turkey to use its ground troops to fight ISIS when he couldn't even get the Turks to give us permission to use their air bases for our fighters and bombers being used to bomb ISIS.
I'm pretty sure the reason the Turks decided, on their own, to get their troops involved is because Turkish territory is being overrun by refugees fleeing Syria flooding into Turkey and not resulting from the persuasion skills of Barrack Obama or John Kerry.
I'm pretty sure the reason the Turks decided, on their own, to get their troops involved is because Turkish territory is being overrun by refugees fleeing Syria flooding into Turkey and not resulting from the persuasion skills of Barrack Obama or John Kerry.
quote:LINK
SANLIURFA, TURKEY - SEPTEMBER 29: Children run while tanks from the Turkish Armed Forces are dispatched to the Turkish - Syrian border as clashes intensified with Islamic State of Iraq and Levant (ISIL) militants on September 29, 2014 in Suruc district of Sanliurfa, southeastern province of Turkey. Kurdish troops are in a bitter battle against fighters of the Islamic State (IS, also called ISIS and ISIL) to defend the strategic nearby Kurdish border town of Kobani (also called Ayn Al-Arab), which ISIS has surrounded on three sides. The Turkish Parliament is due to vote on a measure on Thursday that would allow Turkish ground forces to enter Syria and create a buffer zone to protect refugees fleeing the ISIS advance.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 12:47 pm to bhtigerfan
quote:Cool. So we can leave the region now...
Turkey to send ground troops to fight ISIS
Posted on 10/2/14 at 12:51 pm to LSURussian
quote:Exactly what they announced on the news. Disregard anything that the little douchebag FT says. He's mildly mentally retarded.
I'm pretty sure the reason the Turks decided, on their own, to get their troops involved is because Turkish territory is being overrun by refugees fleeing Syria flooding into Turkey and not resulting from the persuasion skills of Barrack Obama or John Kerry.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 12:51 pm to LSURussian
Doesn't look like they will be fighting ISIS. Looks like their intent is to provide security for their border and refugees. I hope that's cover for kicking ISIS arse but I have my doubts.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 12:56 pm to bhtigerfan
quote:Nah, he's a nice guy....we've communicated off the board. He's probably just tired of the constant bashing of Obama which is usually warranted but sometimes becomes contradictory.
Disregard anything that the little douchebag FT says. He's mildly mentally retarded.
It might clear up some confusion if you edited the OP and included the reason the Turks are entering Syria to fight ISIS. As it is, your OP leaves the perception the Turks have declared war on ISIS and will be attacking them full bore, which they haven't and aren't.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 12:59 pm to bhtigerfan
About fricking time
ETA: Russian is right, lots of refugees and they're acting as a buffer. But at least it's something
ETA: Russian is right, lots of refugees and they're acting as a buffer. But at least it's something
This post was edited on 10/2/14 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 10/2/14 at 1:04 pm to bhtigerfan
frick yesss 
This is awesome on so many levels. They are going to be ruthless on ISIS, i doubt they follow any real ROE's.
That and turks hate arabs.
This is awesome on so many levels. They are going to be ruthless on ISIS, i doubt they follow any real ROE's.
That and turks hate arabs.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 1:05 pm to bhtigerfan
quote:
Arab nation
quote:
Turkey
good grief
Posted on 10/2/14 at 1:07 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Good grief indeed.
I would tell Turkey they can keep all the Isis turf that they wish to occupy.
I would tell Turkey they can keep all the Isis turf that they wish to occupy.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 1:17 pm to LSURussian
quote:Well, whatever makes your irrational hate of Obama work.
I'm pretty sure the reason the Turks decided, on their own, to get their troops involved is because Turkish territory is being overrun by refugees fleeing Syria flooding into Turkey and not resulting from the persuasion skills of Barrack Obama or John Kerry.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 1:17 pm to mauser
Turkey and Kurdistan are about to become military allies. Who would've ever thought that 10 years ago. The simple truth is they're about to become major trading partners as well as the Kurds are planning to build a massive pipeline to Turkeys port cities for the exportation of oil. This is going to make both of these countries billions and billions of dollars, and apparently that's enough to trump the concerns of the Turks over the Kurds support of the Kurdish separatist groups PKK etc in the mountains. I have heard rumors for some time now about an agreement between the Turks and the Kurds to allow the separatist free passage into Kurdish controlled Iraq if they quit fighting. Since it is readily apparent the Kurds are about to get their own country either in name or completely separate, the Turkish Kurds would have an opportunity to have their own country.
Since they're about to be major trading partners, this alleviates the Turks concerns over The Kurds becoming his own country and seeking to annex or take control of certain parts of Turkey.
so in essence in a short period of time you've seen the to populations go from becoming enemies to trading partners and strategic and military allies.
If Isis takes control of this area the Turks are going to lose hundreds of billions of dollars. Wars have certainly been started over less than that, so I am not surprised at all to see them prepare to send in military ground troops to help support their new friends and allies the Kurds.
This really is the only success story of the Iraqi war and the one that we need to heavily invest in as well. The Kurds or exceptional group of people that already expel a lot of Western values in their natural native culture and are positioned to be a valued ally of ours as well as NATO and the Turks. For this reason, it is our strategic best interest to ensure they defeat Islamic state in northern Iraq. (they are sitting on billions of barrels of oil)
Since they're about to be major trading partners, this alleviates the Turks concerns over The Kurds becoming his own country and seeking to annex or take control of certain parts of Turkey.
so in essence in a short period of time you've seen the to populations go from becoming enemies to trading partners and strategic and military allies.
If Isis takes control of this area the Turks are going to lose hundreds of billions of dollars. Wars have certainly been started over less than that, so I am not surprised at all to see them prepare to send in military ground troops to help support their new friends and allies the Kurds.
This really is the only success story of the Iraqi war and the one that we need to heavily invest in as well. The Kurds or exceptional group of people that already expel a lot of Western values in their natural native culture and are positioned to be a valued ally of ours as well as NATO and the Turks. For this reason, it is our strategic best interest to ensure they defeat Islamic state in northern Iraq. (they are sitting on billions of barrels of oil)
This post was edited on 10/2/14 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 10/2/14 at 1:17 pm to bhtigerfan
quote:
Better them than us. About time an Arab nation steps up against these animals.
Turks aren't Arabs
Posted on 10/2/14 at 1:20 pm to FT
quote:My hate for Obama is very rational, fwiw.
I'm pretty sure the reason the Turks decided, on their own, to get their troops involved is because Turkish territory is being overrun by refugees fleeing Syria flooding into Turkey and not resulting from the persuasion skills of Barrack Obama or John Kerry.
Well, whatever makes your irrational hate of Obama work.
Posted on 10/2/14 at 1:22 pm to TN Bhoy
Correct Turks have never been considered Arabs, really dont like each other and never have.
By a Turk when ask are you guys Arabs?No we aren't. As you also called us, we are Turks.
Here is a brief history of Turkish people :
The first historical references to the Turks appear in Chinese records of about 2000 B.C. These records refer to tribes called the Hsiung-nu, an early form of the Western term Hun, who lived in an area bounded by the Altai Mountains, Lake Baikal, and the northern edge of the Gobi Desert and are believed to have been the ancestors of the Turks. Specific references in Chinese sources in the sixth century A.D. identify the tribal kingdom called Tu-Küe located on the Orkhon River south of Lake Baikal. The Khans (chiefs) of this tribe accepted the nominal suzerainty of the Tang dynasty. The earliest known example of writing in a Turkic language was found in that area and can be dated from about A.D. 730.
Other Turkish nomads from the Altai region founded the Göktürk Empire, a confederation of tribes under a dynasty of Khans whose influence extended during the sixth to eighth centuries from the Aral Sea to the Hindu Kush in the land bridge known as Transoxania, i.e., across the Oxus River. The Göktürks are known to have been enlisted by a Byzantine emperor in the seventh century as allies against the Sassanians. In the eighth century some Turkish tribes, among them the Oguz, moved south of the Oxus River, while others migrated west to the northern shore of the Black Sea.
Turks came into Asia Minor in 1071 AD after the victory of Malazgirt War by the Seljuks.
Although nowaday some Turks are mixed with some other ethnicities who were ruled by Ottoman Empire for hundreds of years which include, Bosnian, Circassian, Greek, Laz, Albanian, Armenian, Syrian, Kurd etc , there are a lot of pure blood ones, as well.
We don't consider Turkishness as an ethnicity matter but a national matter. Therefore, whomever considers himself/herself a Turk, then he/she is one.
By a Turk when ask are you guys Arabs?No we aren't. As you also called us, we are Turks.
Here is a brief history of Turkish people :
The first historical references to the Turks appear in Chinese records of about 2000 B.C. These records refer to tribes called the Hsiung-nu, an early form of the Western term Hun, who lived in an area bounded by the Altai Mountains, Lake Baikal, and the northern edge of the Gobi Desert and are believed to have been the ancestors of the Turks. Specific references in Chinese sources in the sixth century A.D. identify the tribal kingdom called Tu-Küe located on the Orkhon River south of Lake Baikal. The Khans (chiefs) of this tribe accepted the nominal suzerainty of the Tang dynasty. The earliest known example of writing in a Turkic language was found in that area and can be dated from about A.D. 730.
Other Turkish nomads from the Altai region founded the Göktürk Empire, a confederation of tribes under a dynasty of Khans whose influence extended during the sixth to eighth centuries from the Aral Sea to the Hindu Kush in the land bridge known as Transoxania, i.e., across the Oxus River. The Göktürks are known to have been enlisted by a Byzantine emperor in the seventh century as allies against the Sassanians. In the eighth century some Turkish tribes, among them the Oguz, moved south of the Oxus River, while others migrated west to the northern shore of the Black Sea.
Turks came into Asia Minor in 1071 AD after the victory of Malazgirt War by the Seljuks.
Although nowaday some Turks are mixed with some other ethnicities who were ruled by Ottoman Empire for hundreds of years which include, Bosnian, Circassian, Greek, Laz, Albanian, Armenian, Syrian, Kurd etc , there are a lot of pure blood ones, as well.
We don't consider Turkishness as an ethnicity matter but a national matter. Therefore, whomever considers himself/herself a Turk, then he/she is one.
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