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re: Tucker: Lawyer for rapist admits def. will impugn accuser character

Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:48 pm to
Posted by kcon70
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2016
2695 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:48 pm to
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LSU12223


Understood. I know there are cases where the defense got their client out of serious shite, when in fact they deserved prosecution. How does that feel to the defense attorney is what I'm wondering?

In a conscience way of thinking.
Posted by LSU12223
Member since Sep 2016
1482 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:50 pm to
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Understood. I know there are cases where the defense got their client out of serious shite, when in fact they deserved prosecution. How does that feel to the defense attorney is what I'm wondering?

In a conscience way of thinking.


I just dont think they give a damn. I feel its more about the money for some lawyers like this guy.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27071 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:50 pm to
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''The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers,'' - Henry VI, Part II, act IV, Scene II, Line 73.


Posted by kcon70
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2016
2695 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:53 pm to
I feel the same way. Just trying not to be so cynical.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27071 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 9:55 pm to
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As a defense attorney, how do you represent a client when you know that they are in fact, guilty of the crime they are accused of? How does that sit in the heart?


The answer to that question is layered. Some cases, I don't think what the person did should even be a crime (anything involving drugs, for example). In cases with a victim, it's rare that I'll know with 100% certainty that my client is guilty. As such, it's very easy to simply focus on the defense.

The crimes with victims in which I know my client is guilty need to be chopped up a bit. My client might be guilty, but are they guilty of a lesser included offense? Were they charged with attempted murder, but it's really a second degree battery?

But finally, the crimes with victims, particularly the nasty ones, in which I know my client is guilty as charged can be tough. In those cases, I focus on the system fighting. I work my arse off to reach a resolution pre-trial in the form of a plea, and if that doesn't shake out, I work my arse off to prepare for trial.

Fortunately, like I mentioned at the very beginning, it's the very rare case that I have a crime with a victim in which I'm 100% certain my client is guilty.
Posted by NOLApurpleandgold
baton rouge
Member since Jul 2016
1236 posts
Posted on 3/23/17 at 11:49 pm to
You are a true hero.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 6:27 am to
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the lawyer was basically saying they are going to attack the 14 yr old's character as a slut or loose girl that consented to these acts.

shite you act like this is some new revelation; defense attorneys do this everyfrickingday.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32793 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 6:37 am to
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redundant

Meanwhile a lawyer on the other side is trying to put the POS behind bars...
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 6:38 am to
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For those that don't know what this means: the lawyer was basically saying they are going to attack the 14 yr old's character as a slut or loose girl that consented to these acts.


Sounds like he got a consult from hrc
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 6:57 am to
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It's wrong morally but the lawyer is just doing his job. He is hired to help make the defendant not guilty, and this is the best way he can do that. He probably wont win, but the lawyer feels this is his best bet. On these grounds though I feel as if it's setting the defendant up for statutory rape


And that's why I believe a criminal defense attorney can not have any religious beliefs or morals. I don't give a shite if a persons constitutional right is to be given a fair trial and if part of that is to be represented by a competent attorney. Morally there is no way a good Christian person could be ok with something like that.
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 7:28 am to
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And that's why I believe a criminal defense attorney can not have any religious beliefs or morals.


I'll try and remember this when working for the FOP & PBA doing legal defense for officers.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 7:31 am to
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And that's why I believe a criminal defense attorney can not have any religious beliefs or morals. I don't give a shite if a persons constitutional right is to be given a fair trial and if part of that is to be represented by a competent attorney. Morally there is no way a good Christian person could be ok with something like that.


I too like big government. /s

Why do people pretend that the government shouldn't be made to strictly prove its case before exercising its powers?
Posted by rumproast
Member since Dec 2003
12095 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 7:37 am to
Well....we dont know the facts....we dont know why she accompanied these guys to the bathroom....we dodnt know what happened, but I could see a scenario where she consented. There'd have to be pretty darned good evidence, considering reports of hearing screaming....but they are certainly entitled to defend themselves...especially given the severity of what they have been charged with...
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 7:39 am
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22780 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 7:46 am to
She was 14. None of that character assassination bullshite should be allowed in this case because it is totally irrelevant. Sex with a 14 year old is rape anyway you slice it.
Posted by rumproast
Member since Dec 2003
12095 posts
Posted on 3/24/17 at 7:49 am to
Not according to the law. Hes within 4 years of her age. Morally, it certainly isnt right....but it isnt rape if it is consensual. (In Louisiana, it would be statutory rape I believe....but not in the state where it occurred.)
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 7:51 am
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