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Trump's comment about Air Force One is a shot across the bow at Boeing and China

Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:00 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118819 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:00 am
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Entirely missed by the MSM and those who discuss political economics is the relationship between the business model of Boeing and their relationship with China.

Over the past weekend Donald Trump fired an economic message across the Chinese bow; the message today, toward Boeing, is directly attached to the same issue(s).

Now remind yourself:

[…] During the January 2016 South Carolina debate, and in response to Trump pointing out a necessary shift in trade position (a shift to put American interests first – a shift to stop the dependency on cheap import goods – a shift to use China’s dependency on access to our market to OUR advantage), Jeb Bush came back with an example of Boeing manufacturing.

Donald Trump, responded to Jeb’s Boeing example, and pointed out China is forcing Boeing to open a manufacturing plant in China. As would be typical from a candidate who is unfamiliar and poorly briefed on the issue, Jeb Bush looked back incredulously and said:

“C’mon man”…

There we saw it.

Right there was the disconnect.

However, almost everyone missed it.

There, in that exact moment, was the spotlight upon all that is wrong with a professional political class; globalists dependent on Wall Street best interest for their talking points.

Donald Trump was 100% correct.

But the issue is bigger.

Not only is China demanding Boeing open a plant in China, the intent of such a plant provides an opportunity to explain why Trump, and his approach, is vitally important – and time is wasting.

China is refusing to trade with (buy) Boeing products if the company does not move. Why? It’s not about putting Chinese people to work, it’s about China importing their research and development, Boeing’s production secrets, into their country so they can learn, steal and begin to manufacture their own airliners.

This is just how China works.

In time, Comac, a state-owned, Shanghai-based aerospace company will then use the production secrets they have stolen, produce their own airliners, kick out Boeing, undercut the market, and sell cheaper manufactured airplanes to the global economy.

Boeing, the great American company that Jeb Bush thinks they are, becomes yet another notch on the Asian market belt.

All of those Boeing workers, those high-wage industrial skill jobs that support the American middle class, yeah – those jobs lost. And the cycle continues.

Of course Wall Street will be invested in the cheaper Chinese aerospace manufacturing company Comac, as it emerges as a manufacturing power.

This reality within this story is a peek into the future of the fundamental disconnect between Wall Street (grows again) and Main Street (lost jobs/wages). The reality within this example is exactly what has taken place over the past three decades. (more)

Now you understand, why this:

quote:

Boeing is building a brand new 747 Air Force One for future presidents, but costs are out of control, more than $4 billion. Cancel order!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 6, 2016


The issue is not about Boeing, the issue is not about Air-Force-One per se’, the larger issue is a notification to Boeing that getting in bed with China may not be in their long-term best interests.

It’s subtle, unless you are within the organizational leadership construct of Boeing. For those executives, it’s subtle like a brick through a window.

In addition, the secondary benefit is a notification to all military and/or federal governmental contractors that the era of using inflated costs to power their business model profits is, well, not the same as it was before….


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Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:00 am to
THE CONSERVATIVE TREEHOUSE!?!?!?!>?!?!

RABBLE RABBNLE RABLLE!!!!

*foams at mouth*

*slams keyboard with fist*

RABBLE!
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118819 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:02 am to
They have been more right this election cycle than the entire MSM combined.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146844 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:26 am to
quote:

Donald Trump was 100% correct.

But the issue is bigger.

Not only is China demanding Boeing open a plant in China, the intent of such a plant provides an opportunity to explain why Trump, and his approach, is vitally important – and time is wasting.

China is refusing to trade with (buy) Boeing products if the company does not move. Why? It’s not about putting Chinese people to work, it’s about China importing their research and development, Boeing’s production secrets, into their country so they can learn, steal and begin to manufacture their own airliners.

I was wondering about this last night. We all know, the reason it is so damned expensive is the protections of a US President that will be involved in AF1. They could enact some stealth technology. Who knows? Some AF1 facts are classified now. Imagine China knowing...

As well as....This plane should be built in America with US steel and technology.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 9:29 am
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79150 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:33 am to
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it’s about China importing their research and development, Boeing’s production secrets, into their country so they can learn, steal and begin to manufacture their own airliners.


A good friend of mine runs a multi-gazillion dollar valve manufacturing business. He was in China a few years back looking over one of his contracted production facilities for a small pin.

While he was having his meeting with the top brass of the production company, he just happened to look down and see HIS VALVES which were to be exported to Nigeria for ExxonMobil. All with certs and MTR's

So to boil it down, a Chinese company that was doing work for this man was also trying to rip him off.
Posted by Vander
Member since Oct 2012
323 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:34 am to
quote:

THE CONSERVATIVE TREEHOUSE!?!?!?!>?!?!

RABBLE RABBNLE RABLLE!!!!

*foams at mouth*

*slams keyboard with fist*

RABBLE!



Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:36 am to
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As well as....This plane should be built in America with US steel and technology.





Remember when we tried to build a new American Embassy in Moscow with Russian Contrators?....... How well did that work out?

Of COURSE the plane should be built in American with American contrators if for security reasons alone.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146844 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:36 am to
you can say this again...

quote:

They have been more right this election cycle than the entire MSM combined.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 9:37 am
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32543 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:39 am to
quote:

GumboPot
Great article
I knew there had to be more to this Beoing thing than just 1 airplane.
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 9:45 am to
I remember him strongly talking about this issue last year. We cannot let China dominate us once again and become stronger to our regression. President Trump, do your thing.
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14340 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 10:05 am to
quote:

Trump's comment about Air Force One is a shot across the bow at Boeing and China by GumboPot
I say cut the Secret Service budget - that would be a start - BTW - these two aircraft wouldn't be ready until the spring of 2024 - the current AF1's are getting are getting old. Let Airbus and Beriev (Putin's fav) bid on the new AF1 - France and Russia - this will make the AF1 great again.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118819 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:01 am to
quote:

he just happened to look down and see HIS VALVES which were to be exported to Nigeria for ExxonMobil. All with certs and MTR's


Haha. And they are usually fake documents. I seriously doubt Chinese valve manufacturers are sending their product off to be tested by a trusted third party.

With that said Chinese pipe and valves are not necessarily bad for non-critical service. For example, very low pressure service piping and valves.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32096 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:11 am to
quote:

They have been more right this election cycle than the entire MSM combined


Not exactly a high bar.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
29475 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:15 am to
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China is refusing to trade with (buy) Boeing products if the company does not move. Why? It’s not about putting Chinese people to work, it’s about China importing their research and development, Boeing’s production secrets, into their country so they can learn, steal and begin to manufacture their own airliners. 
This is exactly what China will do. That is their M.O.

My BIL works for Shell in China. The previous drilling fluids company I worked for was trying to get into the Chinese market, and I told the guy in charge of it that my BIL was there with Shell and I could put him in contact with him and possibly help. My BIL told him, "They'll make you hire mostly Chinese workers, steal all of your trade secrets, then kick you out of the country after a couple years and produce all of your products by a Chinese company. They don't give a damn about patents and are the most unscrupulous business people in the world."
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