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Trump's Budget Increases Spending

Posted on 5/24/17 at 4:12 pm
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 4:12 pm
Don't believe the "Washington Math". Trump's budget actually increases overall spending by Trillions.

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When you look at the overall numbers (above), spending increases to $4.1 trillion in 2018 and rises to $5.7 trillion in 2027. So much for reductions. When figured as a percentage of the economy (GDP), we see a slow decline from 20.5 percent next year down to 18.4 percent in 2027, but those figures are screwy because they're based on the phoney-baloney growth projections. The same goes for receipts, whether estimated in dollars or percentages. Only in the fantasyland of government accounting can a budget that projects spending $900 billion more in 2027 than 2018 be described as "Trump seeks to slash $3.6 trillion in austere budget."


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Posted by flyAU
Scottsdale
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 4:13 pm to
That site is unreasonable.
Posted by BeeFense5
Kenner
Member since Jul 2010
41291 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 4:15 pm to
Where were all these government watchdog articles when Barack was increasing spending and deficits for 8 years?
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 4:16 pm to
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That site is unreasonable.



What is wrong with the math or the interpretation of the budget?
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62373 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 4:16 pm to
Yeah, and there are people who believe sequester was a cut, too. That's how the swamp wants you to think....
Posted by seawolf06
NH
Member since Oct 2007
8159 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 4:17 pm to
The question is where were you?

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White House Office of Management and Budget Director Jack Lew claims that President Obama’s new budget calls for a “sustainable” deficit but the facts tell a different story. Despite a nominal commitment to fiscal reform, the president’s budget calls for $3.7 trillion in spending. That’s more spending than occurred in fiscal year 2010. This spending will result in a projected net deficit of $1.6 trillion, the highest level of deficit in U.S. history


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Posted by Iosh
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Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 4:17 pm to
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Where were all these government watchdog articles when Barack was increasing spending and deficits for 8 years?
You think Reason.com was a fan of Barack's spending and deficits?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139782 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 4:18 pm to
Have you seen a reputable economist use phoney baloney in his write ups?
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112413 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 4:18 pm to
But the Dems are saying everyone will die with his budget. If he cuts even more then everyone will die twice.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
16991 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 4:19 pm to
I love how everyone thinks 3% growth is impossible just because Obama was stuck around 1% for his entire 8 years.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24573 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 4:19 pm to
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Where were all these government watchdog articles when Barack was increasing spending and deficits for 8 years?


Whataboutism
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 5/24/17 at 4:21 pm to
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I love how everyone thinks 3% growth is impossible just because Obama was stuck around 1% for his entire 8 years.
3% growth is impossible because we're gonna have a bunch of old people retiring. Doesn't have shite to do with who's in charge.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139782 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 4:21 pm to
In the liberal mind it's never OK to review history unless they say it's OK to review history.

Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 4:21 pm to
Reason.com shite all over almost every thing Barack did for 8 years. Shitting on govt is kind of their schtick.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26659 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 4:22 pm to
Every budget uses projections. It's impossible not to. Whether or not you believe those projections is up to you.

So, since spending is increase, no one will die of starvation in the streets?

Grandma is safe, thank god.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 4:27 pm to
My sources..which are the best, have shown me undeniable proof, in the form of personal memos and other things, that the site you're referencing has strong ties with Russian intel and psyops and have colluded in order to bring about those things which have been brought.
This post was edited on 5/24/17 at 4:36 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118678 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 4:30 pm to
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because they're based on the phoney-baloney growth projections.


3% GDP growth is not phoney-baloney growth projections. Only people under 30 living under the Obama economic doldrums of 1.5% GDP growth think 3% GDP is phoney-baloney.

I feel sorry for people that didn't get to experience the Reagan Economic Revolution and the Internet Boom during the Clinton years.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118678 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 4:36 pm to
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The GDPNow model forecast for real GDP growth (seasonally adjusted annual rate) in the second quarter of 2017 is 4.1 percent on May 16, up from 3.6 percent on May 12. The forecast of second-quarter real residential investment growth increased from 6.0 percent to 8.3 percent after this morning's housing starts release from the U.S. Census Bureau. The forecast of second-quarter real final sales to private domestic purchasers growth increased from 3.3 percent to 3.6 percent after this morning's industrial production (IP) report from the Federal Reserve Board of Governors. The model’s estimate of the dynamic factor for April—normalized to have mean 0 and standard deviation 1 and used to forecast the yet-to-be released monthly GDP source data—increased from 0.32 to 0.59 after the report. The forecast of the contribution of inventory investment to second-quarter real GDP growth increased from 1.00 percentage points to 1.20 percentage points after the IP report. Much of the increase was concentrated in motor vehicle and parts dealer inventories as motor vehicle assemblies increased 6.4 percent in April, according to the IP report.


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Posted by Iosh
Bureau of Interstellar Immigration
Member since Dec 2012
18941 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 4:40 pm to
Oh, my mistake, I didn't know one model had a high forecast for one quarter. That changes everything I said.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118678 posts
Posted on 5/24/17 at 4:48 pm to
But you said 3% was impossible. Even Obama has a couple of quarters above 3%.

Once Trump implements policies that shift us from less of a service economy to more of a production economy we'll see more robust growth.
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