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re: Trump tweets that he will cancel the Cuba deal Obama made.

Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:53 pm to
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Because it was a completely different situation


Right. Because South Africa wasn't a Communist paradise.
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
6941 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:56 pm to
The deal is very sweet for a lot of gop benefactors.

He will cut the deal like he will prosecute Clinton and repeal obamacare.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:58 pm to
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Funny. Lefties sure the frick weren't saying this about South Africa.

I wonder why?????
Huh?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 1:59 pm to
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. i've always felt they would've kicked castro out a long time ago if they had a taste of freedom ...


Castro never allowed his people to taste freedom. Had little to do with US citizens being able to travel there or do business with the country. He kept his people dumb and poor on purpose.
Posted by mwade91383
Washington DC
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:00 pm to
Terminating our end of a very precarious relationship is a stupid move with no upside. I don't understand why Trump thinks this kind of leveraging will change anything. Let them get more and more of a taste of capitalism, not only will life for Cubans improve but it might lead to a long overdue political revolution. The last 50 years have done nothing for US/Cuban relations. Say what you will about BO but at least he tried something different, or dare I say, against the establishment.

What's more establishment than going immediately back to what we've done for 50 years???
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:03 pm to
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quote:Funny. Lefties sure the frick weren't saying this about South Africa. I wonder why?????Huh?


That sanctions don't work.
Posted by udtiger
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:14 pm to
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He kept his people dumb and poor on purpose.


Sounds like the Democratic Party.
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
Atlanta GA - ITP
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:26 pm to
Trump's company violated the embargo before....this doesn't make a lot of sense.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 2:27 pm to
What's the point of this? As was stated before capitalisms creep will slowly erode the communist grip. The only things keeping it up were Venezuelan money which no longer exists and US sanctions. Dumb move by Trump.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
41177 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:36 pm to
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yeah, cause 50 years of sanctions really helped to depose the communist party/dictatorship of cuba ...


Man, we just need to keep it up one more decade. Just be patient.
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:40 pm to
I don't know how I feel about this. Don't we want to show Cuba what democracy is all about, especially given Castro's death?
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:42 pm to
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Booooom! frick dictators. Free the people.


Well that's a step in the wrong direction. That's punishing people for the acts of a dictator and one of the proven methods do undoing dictatorial regimes like Cuba is to flood them with American consumerism. Oh well.
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12227 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:43 pm to
Use The Naval Base to broadcast free, unfiltered wifi into Cuba, drop some leftover Obama phones from planes.


Once the people get a taste of freedom they will revolt.

Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by Sentrius
Fort Rozz
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:48 pm to
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No, but the creeping in of capitalism will. Don't like this one bit.



I as well.

Cuba has already been getting a hefty taste of good ol american capitalism and all the trappings it offers and Raul Castro sees this.

He will make some concessions if he knows whats good for him and the people he enslaves.
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:51 pm to
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Trump's company violated the embargo before....this doesn't make a lot of sense.
You don't say?!
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 3:54 pm to
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Let them get more and more of a taste of capitalism
How does Obama's deal with Cuba give the Cuban people "more and more of a taste of capitalism"??
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:00 pm to
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How does Obama's deal with Cuba give the Cuban people "more and more of a taste of capitalism"??


I would like to know this as well.

Plus what are they going to do after getting a taste? Throw pots at the regime if they don't get change?

Who remembers when democracy was about to break out in China in the 1980's?
Posted by tiderider
Member since Nov 2012
7703 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:06 pm to
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quote:
How does Obama's deal with Cuba give the Cuban people "more and more of a taste of capitalism"??


I would like to know this as well.

Plus what are they going to do after getting a taste? Throw pots at the regime if they don't get change?

Who remembers when democracy was about to break out in China in the 1980's?



i'd argue china and cuba are apples/oranges ... i'd also argue that failure in one place shouldn't stop an attempt in another ...
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35240 posts
Posted on 11/28/16 at 4:07 pm to
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Who remembers when democracy was about to break out in China in the 1980's?
Well since they've move towards a capitalism system, they've become much more dominant in the world.
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