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Posted on 1/3/17 at 2:39 pm to Loserman
The decider of how big the census is will be the determination by the courts whether minority-majority districts are required under various Civil Rights and Voting Rights acts.
If they are retained, the Dems bank a certain number of districts but are ghettoized, no pun intended, into being the party of the urban minorities.
If they go away, then states have the rights to create more competitive districts which reduce the Dems' floor but raise their ceiling considerably.
Frankly, the latter is a better option even if it gives the Dems a shot of winning the House just because it makes it harder for them to go hard-left if they don't have so many shitbirds like SJL, Waters, Clyburn, etc, protected solely due to race.
If they are retained, the Dems bank a certain number of districts but are ghettoized, no pun intended, into being the party of the urban minorities.
If they go away, then states have the rights to create more competitive districts which reduce the Dems' floor but raise their ceiling considerably.
Frankly, the latter is a better option even if it gives the Dems a shot of winning the House just because it makes it harder for them to go hard-left if they don't have so many shitbirds like SJL, Waters, Clyburn, etc, protected solely due to race.
Posted on 1/3/17 at 2:43 pm to teke184
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The decider of how big the census is will be the determination by the courts whether minority-majority districts are required under various Civil Rights and Voting Rights acts.
You are correct. I did not included the courts because I wanted someone else to bring it up.
Guess who will soon control the courts.
Posted on 1/3/17 at 2:52 pm to WhiskeyPapa
Trump isn't much different than Obama. Just different issues
Posted on 1/3/17 at 3:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Trump isn't much different than Obama. Just different issues
Yup. Had Obama made this comment, the right would have crucified him. Now Trumkins are suddenly anti-open market.
Trump is converting so called "conservatives" into liberals. And they are going happily.
Posted on 1/3/17 at 3:18 pm to Scruffy
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Didn't we bail them out? Were there no stipulations they agreed to when we did that?
don the con just got his facts wrong again while tweeting.
the cruze is produced in ohio, the hatchback verson is produced in Mexico and only a select few are sold here in the States
dumbass Trump just didnt know what he was talking about, which is typical
but Hey Maga
Posted on 1/3/17 at 3:25 pm to WhiskeyPapa
How about he tell them to make a Chevy Cruz that isn't a giant POS? Easily the worst rental car I've ever driven and I see no way the top trim level can save it from being such a god awful ride.
This post was edited on 1/3/17 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 1/3/17 at 3:35 pm to Strannix
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When the right finally takes care of the Unions the left will never win another national election.
Because $10 per hour manufacturing job will Dave our economy?
The cognitive dissonance of the right is hilarious.
Posted on 1/3/17 at 3:38 pm to CaptainBrannigan
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Because $10 per hour manufacturing job will Dave our economy?
The cognitive dissonance of the right is hilarious.
I'm pretty sure auto workers make a good bit more than 10 bucks an hour.
It's weird to see people so angry about Americans getting jobs.
Posted on 1/3/17 at 3:46 pm to Dr RC
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Easily the worst rental car I've ever driven
I don't mind them. It's a standard compact car like the Corolla or Focus. None of them are overly pleasant.
They do make them in Ohio.
Posted on 1/3/17 at 3:46 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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Protecting US jobs and US workers used to be the policy of the federal government. We need to get back to that.
What about US employers and Us consumers. frick them?
Posted on 1/3/17 at 3:49 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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It's weird to see people so angry about Americans getting jobs.
What's weird is to see a Republican make punitive tax threats to a US company instead of changing the tax environment at home to encourage US companies to manufacture here.
Does Trump think RAISING taxes is they way to create American jobs?
Posted on 1/3/17 at 3:50 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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changing the tax environment at home to encourage US companies to manufacture here.
Is that a realistic possibility for someone who is not yet president?
Posted on 1/3/17 at 3:50 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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instead of changing the tax environment at home to encourage US companies to manufacture here.
I'm pretty sure he's floated proposals to do that.
Posted on 1/3/17 at 3:51 pm to BayouBlitz
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Now Trumkins are suddenly anti-open market.
Trump is converting so called "conservatives" into liberals. And they are going happily.
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Where did all those "Obama is socialist, muh free markets" hypocrites go?
This post was edited on 1/3/17 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 1/3/17 at 3:54 pm to MrCarton
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Protecting US jobs and US workers used to be the policy of the federal government. We need to get back to that.
What about US employers and Us consumers. frick them?
No. Find a balance. It has been since 1828 that Congress passed a tariff specifically to protect American manufactures.
It worked then and into the 20th century.
Posted on 1/3/17 at 3:55 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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Gee that does not sound like a free enterprise, capitalist to dictate to a business that they produce their cars where he says or face a tax.
Trumpkins remind me how this coincides with free market capitalism?
I've always supported the idea of tarriffs but this board most certainly did not, not until fairly recently. Not sure if it's just bc of Trump or what.
Posted on 1/3/17 at 3:55 pm to WhiskeyPapa
Posted on 1/3/17 at 3:56 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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No. Find a balance. It has been since 1828 that Congress passed a tariff specifically to protect American manufactures.
It worked then and into the 20th century.
Meh, the balance it disturbed by reckless regulations that force manufacturers out of country. Work on that and then I'll hear arguments that imply that those who invest have fewer "rights" than those who work, or those who consume.
Liberty has to be universal or it isn't liberty.
This post was edited on 1/3/17 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 1/3/17 at 3:58 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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I'm pretty sure he's floated proposals to do that.
Which looks better:
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"General Motors is sending Mexican made model of Chevy Cruze to U.S. car dealers-tax free across border. Make in U.S.A. or pay big border tax!"
Or:
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"We're going to drop the corporate tax rate in America so low that companies will be falling all over themselves to bring jobs back to America. As a matter of fact, the only thing slowing them down will be the Wall."
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