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Trickle Down Economics Explained

Posted on 5/26/17 at 7:09 am
Posted by Phat Phil
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 7:09 am
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 7:20 am to
Someone tell the democRats.

They love government trickle down, a/k/a tax and spend.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17479 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 7:30 am to
Yeah, the 80's proved it didn't work...I remember the high unemployment and the stagnation of wages...
Posted by GFaceKillah
Welcome to the Third World
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 7:33 am to
quote:

Trickle Down Economics


Has been repeatedly proven to be a false premise.
Posted by tedmarkuson
texas
Member since Feb 2015
2592 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:22 am to
the middle class in 2017 pay virtually no income tax. we can't cut your income taxes anymore than we already have. a family of 4 earning 50k per year is eligible for the EIC which means they pay no income tax. the effective tax rate for a family of four in the tax table (that's people making less than 100k) is 0-6%.

if you want more stuff, you're going to need to work harder or simply live with your bad life choices.

go smoke dicks.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118773 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:41 am to
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Has been repeatedly proven to be a false premise.


Because demand side economics has proven to kick arse the last 8 years.

I feel really sad for the younger folks that didn't get a chance to live though Reaganomics (aka, trickle down, aka supply side). You've been brainwashed to believe that high demand are better economic conditions than high supply. If you want to see a modern day example of demand side economics taken to its fullest extent just look south to Valenzuela. On the other hand if you want to see a supply side economics working to the other extreme see Hong Kong, Singapore and New Zealand as examples.

It proven time and time again that living in economies with an abundance of production is MUCH better than living in economies with a scarcity of production. To argue otherwise is baffling.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:43 am to
quote:

I feel really sad for the younger folks that didn't get a chance to live though Reaganomics (aka, trickle down, aka supply side). You've been brainwashed to believe that high demand are better economic conditions than high supply. If you want to see a modern day example of demand side economics taken to its fullest extent just look south to Valenzuela. On the other hand if you want to see a supply side economics working to the other extreme see Hong Kong, Singapore and New Zealand as examples.


No, youve been brainwashed into believing the rich deserve more money. Oldest trick in the book.
Posted by Twenty 49
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:53 am to
Trickle UP always works on the human/micro level.

If you give a bum $1,000 he will spend it before the weekend is over, mainly at local stores. It will support those businesses and the makers of goods, strippers, etc. and flow up to the wealthy folks who own those businesses.

If you give me a $1,000 tax cut, I'll say "cool" and stick it in the bank. Does nothing to boost the economy.

So if you want to boost the economy, drop $100 bills out of a helicopter over the nearest 'hood and watch it rush, not trickle, up.
Posted by Machine
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:56 am to
sky is blue

water is wet
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:00 am to
quote:

Trickle UP always works on the human/micro level. If you give a bum $1,000 he will spend it before the weekend is over, mainly at local stores. It will support those businesses and the makers of goods, strippers, etc. and flow up to the wealthy folks who own those businesses. If you give me a $1,000 tax cut, I'll say "cool" and stick it in the bank. Does nothing to boost the economy. So if you want to boost the economy, drop $100 bills out of a helicopter over the nearest 'hood and watch it rush, not trickle, up.


There is some economic truth in your premise.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118773 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:08 am to
quote:

No, youve been brainwashed into believing the rich deserve more money. Oldest trick in the book.


I can't wait until all these new college grads get hired by poor people.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16973 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:08 am to
Trickle down economics has directly resulted in the wealth inequality is this country.
Like the video says, the people at the top can only spend so much money. You need money in the hands of consumers who will spend most of their disposal income for a service based economy to work.

It's common sense really but we live in an age where common sense isn't valued anymore.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118773 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:10 am to
quote:

If you give me a $1,000 tax cut, I'll say "cool" and stick it in the bank. Does nothing to boost the economy.



Wrong.

Money in the bank allows banks to lend more by a factor of 10.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:11 am to
quote:


the middle class in 2017 pay virtually no income tax. we can't cut your income taxes anymore than we already have. a family of 4 earning 50k per year is eligible for the EIC which means they pay no income tax. the effective tax rate for a family of four in the tax table (that's people making less than 100k) is 0


A family of 4 earning 50k a year is very likely at or near poverty.. hardly middle class.

30-40k per person per year is probably the lower end of the middle class
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 9:13 am
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:13 am to
quote:

the middle class in 2017 pay virtually no income tax.


What? I have to assume you're being sarcastic here. If not, that's the dumbest thing I've ever seen anyone say.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21874 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:14 am to
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No, youve been brainwashed into believing the rich deserve more money. Oldest trick in the book.


No!

You have been brainwashed to believe that someone becomes rich at the expense of others.

Unless you are robbing people then you are not becoming rich at someone else's expense.

You become rich by providing a good or service that many people want. You create a price for your good or service that makes many people to voluntarily transact with you because they think your good or service is priced fairly enough that they are willing to pay for it.

Price the service too high, and you decrease your amount of voluntary customers.
Price the good too low and you lose money.

For you brainwashed people who still think that the person got rich from not paying his employees fairly..
No one forced them to work for you. They entered in to a free employment contract with you at an agreed upon price. They are free to leave your employment at any time.
This post was edited on 5/26/17 at 9:17 am
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:15 am to
quote:


Trickle UP always works on the human/micro level.

If you give a bum $1,000 he will spend it before the weekend is over, mainly at local stores. It will support those businesses and the makers of goods, strippers, etc. and flow up to the wealthy folks who own those businesses


But it doesnt flow to our corporate overlords
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16973 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:17 am to
quote:

Unless you are robbing people then you are not becoming rich at someone else's expense.



Isn't this what Wall Street does to average Americans.

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118773 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:18 am to
quote:

You need money in the hands of consumers who will spend most of their disposal
quote:

income for a service based economy to work
.


Service based economies only work well when they are based on a strong production economy. Production comes first...then we can have the services. Always.

Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 9:19 am to
quote:


You have been brainwashed to believe that someone becomes rich at the expense of others


This is largely true, though. The goal is to prey on the ignorant enough to turn the biggest possible profit while still leaving them unaware they were fricked.

And as your power and influence grows eventually the law morphs to protect your business from competition allowing you to frick consumers over even harder
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