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Posted on 7/15/14 at 1:37 pm to SpidermanTUba
Posted on 7/15/14 at 1:37 pm to SpidermanTUba
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Then the United States didn't put a man on the moon.
Nope. Subcontracted jobs with private firms. Of course, NASA got a ton of money to direct where the confiscated funds would be used.
The astronauts were govt because they came from air force backgrounds.
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Posted on 7/15/14 at 1:37 pm to Navytiger74
Army Corps contracts out its projects.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 1:39 pm to Zach
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air force backgrounds.
Cough, Navy too.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 1:39 pm to TrueTiger
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Army Corps contracts out its projects.
So they never built anything? Really?
Posted on 7/15/14 at 1:46 pm to Navytiger74
It depends on if you define financing as building I guess.
They are required by law to bid projects out.
They even RFP the engineering.
Fedgov could bid out all COE functions and do away with it altogether and I doubt anyone would notice but the laid off COE people.
They are required by law to bid projects out.
They even RFP the engineering.
Fedgov could bid out all COE functions and do away with it altogether and I doubt anyone would notice but the laid off COE people.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 1:54 pm to TrueTiger
Just spent a weekend at Sleeping Bear Dunes...
I think we have an outstanding national park system. I'm not sure the quality, diversity, and quantity would be anywhere approaching what it is without federal administration.
That's about all I have.
I think we have an outstanding national park system. I'm not sure the quality, diversity, and quantity would be anywhere approaching what it is without federal administration.
That's about all I have.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 1:54 pm to DelU249
Lot's of stuff. But I think you are asking the wrong question.
"Is there any good or service produced by the government that cannot be done more cost effectively by the private sector?" is the better question.
Of course you have to acknowledge that some things should not be done by the private sector even if cheaper (but a lot of debate can be had about that).
I think it would be interesting to outsource congress to a bunch of think tanks for say 8 years as a trial run. I would be curious to see the results.
"Is there any good or service produced by the government that cannot be done more cost effectively by the private sector?" is the better question.
Of course you have to acknowledge that some things should not be done by the private sector even if cheaper (but a lot of debate can be had about that).
I think it would be interesting to outsource congress to a bunch of think tanks for say 8 years as a trial run. I would be curious to see the results.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 1:56 pm to Navytiger74
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Cough, Navy too.
Sorry bout that.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 2:05 pm to TrueTiger
That's what I thought, but for some reason I was under the impression my peacoat was made by uncle sam, in boot camp I had to work in the uniform thingamabobby, and they had women sewing garments, not tailoring, sewing (i.e. piecing together)
not on a large enough scale to provide those items to everyone even on base, but I always found that to be curious.
the government has created goods (that other companies make) they have made some goods, and they do provide services (USPS, admin functions, dmv, etc.) and I'm not speaking specifically federal or state
to surmise: I left the OP vague because there is a lot of splitting hairs...I guess to rephrase, does the government purchase anything of quality (I'm curious as to the prices for these items) that are THEN issued to employees/service members/etc. Additionally, do they provide any service that is excellent?
not on a large enough scale to provide those items to everyone even on base, but I always found that to be curious.
the government has created goods (that other companies make) they have made some goods, and they do provide services (USPS, admin functions, dmv, etc.) and I'm not speaking specifically federal or state
to surmise: I left the OP vague because there is a lot of splitting hairs...I guess to rephrase, does the government purchase anything of quality (I'm curious as to the prices for these items) that are THEN issued to employees/service members/etc. Additionally, do they provide any service that is excellent?
Posted on 7/15/14 at 2:08 pm to DelU249
They dig nice ditches. The one they dug in N. Arizona is sort of interesting.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 2:12 pm to SpidermanTUba
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I like the interstate highway system
wow, so I suppose you love the constant increase and decrease in lanes that jams traffic from NOLA to Kenner.
and I wouldn't call that a service rendered. They built them for quick transport of military personnel and vehicles. Think with a cold war mentality.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 2:17 pm to Navytiger74
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but government-funded technologies and innovations have had a profound impact on the world.
what started my intrigue today...I saw a glow stick on tv early this morning.
I feel I've clarified the OP to everyone's liking and it is more precise as to what I'm asking
Posted on 7/15/14 at 2:19 pm to DelU249
Air Travel in the US is one of the best run and safest despite being one of the most complicated systems anywhere... largely due to government services and regulations.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 2:31 pm to mmcgrath
I disagree tremendously with that.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 2:32 pm to Zach
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Nope. Subcontracted jobs with private firms. Of course, NASA got a ton of money to direct where the confiscated funds would be used.
The astronauts were govt because they came from air force backgrounds.
Stupid Americans wanna take all the credit. They didn't build anything!
Posted on 7/15/14 at 2:49 pm to DelU249
quote:And I used to value your opinion so highly.
I disagree tremendously with that.
Any details you care to share?
Posted on 7/15/14 at 2:51 pm to SpidermanTUba
Obviously NASA deserves credit for putting a man on the moon. It is a great achievement and a symbol of a time when the government had a reputation for doing some great things
But not in line with what I was looking for in the OP which admittedly was hastily done and poorly written
But not in line with what I was looking for in the OP which admittedly was hastily done and poorly written
Posted on 7/15/14 at 2:56 pm to DelU249
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does the government purchase anything of quality
Oh hell yes!
The B-52 is a magnificent beast!
Browning M2 50 Cal., M-1 Garand, 1911 45 Cal. -WOW! I could go on but you get the idea, they buy a lot of really good stuff.
Posted on 7/15/14 at 2:57 pm to mmcgrath
no because it's a thread all by itself. For such a complex system, which you admit yourself, your statement is incredibly vague. Airline safety regulations is an expansive subject so I definitely don't have the time to discuss airline regulation in its entirety. And why can't I disagree without :rollseyes: ? Surely you don't expect a detailed breakdown of each regulation, their practicality, usefulness and an analysis of their implementation? Another time perhaps
This post was edited on 7/15/14 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 7/15/14 at 2:59 pm to TrueTiger
The .50 cal, I used to man one is a beast, planes, tanks and vehicles aren't really what I had in mind
Navytiger seems to get what I'm speaking about. Must be the awful AFN commercials he's constantly exposed to
Navytiger seems to get what I'm speaking about. Must be the awful AFN commercials he's constantly exposed to
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