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re: Tomorrow, 4/5/14, is tax renewal vote day in EBR parish

Posted on 4/4/14 at 12:33 pm to
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15379 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 12:33 pm to
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I stand corrected. You are right. My apologies.


Third time you've been wrong in your life. It happens.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36046 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 12:33 pm to
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I stand corrected. You are right. My apologies.


Apology accepted
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 12:35 pm to
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And until then, it's not BR City sales taxes is it? It's parish tax money.
The point is those sales taxes are NOT paid exclusively by SG residents. People from all over the area pay those taxes.

We've been through this dozens of times. You pretend those taxes are coming out of the pockets of only SG residents which means those taxes subsidize the city of BR. That's just not true.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 12:38 pm to
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sec13rowBBseat28

Shouldn't you be checking the news to see what all you've missed?

BTW, the U.S. put a man on the moon, just in case you missed that news, too......
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15379 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 12:41 pm to
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BTW, the U.S. put a man on the moon, just in case you missed that news, too......





Posted by swampdawg
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2007
5141 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 12:41 pm to
Sad that I had no idea there was a vote tomorrow
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11484 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 12:41 pm to
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I always vote 'yes' on real estate taxes. It's ridiculous how low they are in this state.


Are you comparing them to states with lower income taxes than Louisiana?

It isn't as simple as what you are appear to be stating.

ETA: I do not believe real estate taxes are even a state tax in LA. So, not sure what you mean by this state.
This post was edited on 4/4/14 at 12:42 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36046 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 12:42 pm to
I do not disagree. Customers from everywhere pay sales taxes. People who live in SG and spend in SG probably account for a large part of the taxes collected but who knows exactly how much? I don't. And the same thing applies for the City of BR. Outsiders pay sales taxes there too.

There is no dispute about that.

I'm just saying the sales taxes go to the parish govt., the school board, the sewer program, etc. and not the city right now. It's parish tax money in the end.
Posted by Kramer26
St. George, LA
Member since Jan 2005
6404 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 12:43 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/27/20 at 10:26 pm
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15379 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 12:43 pm to
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Shouldn't you be checking the news to see what all you've missed?

See if you can find something on this vote on The Advocates website. I admit that I couldn't.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 12:49 pm to
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Sad that I had no idea there was a vote tomorrow
I know.

The Advocate's main editorial column today endorsed the BREC renewal tax as well as the Livingston Parish library tax.

I haven't seen the usual "Support BREC, Vote YES" signs that I usually do. It's been really low key, probably intentionally.

It will probably pass 3-1 but I'll be voting no. I would love to see the vote be close.

Even if it fails to pass (it won't), BREC will just put it on the fall election ballot and then do a hard sell to pass it.
This post was edited on 4/4/14 at 12:51 pm
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56518 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 12:50 pm to
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I stand corrected. You are right. My apologies.



3!
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 12:51 pm to
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See if you can find something on this vote on The Advocates website. I admit that I couldn't.
Today's Advocate
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36046 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 12:59 pm to
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3!


And we all know of at least a fourth.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 1:07 pm to
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Anybody know how much cash BREC has in the bank just sitting there? I thought I heard it was a lot so this tax may not be necessary.
Sit down before you read this:

According to BREC's 2013 year end financial report, they have $81,660,398 in all of their various fund balances. That's EIGHTY ONE MILLION, SIX HUNDRED SIXTY THOUSAND, THREE HUNDRED NINETY EIGHT DOLLARS.

They have almost $36 million sitting in just their general fund, meaning not dedicated for new parks, etc.

Their annual general fund expenditures in 2013 were $41.2 million.

That means BREC has over 9 months worth of operating funds in the bank just sitting there.

Even worse, IMO, their 2013 TOTAL expenditures were $81,375,529. So with $81,660,398 sitting in the bank in all of their funds, they have MORE than a year's worth of expenditures sitting in the bank.

Scroll down to page 16 of BREC's 2013 year end report (.pdf page 10)
Posted by hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
6229 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 1:18 pm to
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I always vote 'yes' on real estate taxes. It's ridiculous how low they are in this state.


I'll have a bill for several thousand that I'll be glad to let you pay if you need more warm fuzzies.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 1:21 pm to
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I'll have a bill for several thousand
Count on adding about 50% to that bill if SG becomes its own city and school district.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 1:40 pm to
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I guess St. George is only on Bluebonnet Blvd?
Are you serious? You and the sec+numbers guy must purposefully strive to remain out of touch with local news.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36046 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 1:43 pm to
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Count on adding about 50% to that bill if SG becomes its own city and school district.


Currently citizens in EBR Parish that are in the proposed SG and who live in the SG Fire District district pay 43.45 mills to the EBR Parish School system.

Parish taxes are 49.128 mills, the Fire Tax is 14 mills.

If you add up those three property tax millages:

43.45+49.128+14=106.578 mills

Zachary's school millage is 79.2 and is the highest in the parish. It's the worse case right now.

Now here is the tricky part (for you) If we deduct what we currently pay to the EBR System and add what Zachary pays as a worse case then pay 143.348 mills. which isn't 50% more than we pay now. It is closer to 34% and there is no way to say we would need to raise property taxes that much or if at all.

Remember, sales taxes collected in the SG that currently go to the EBR Parish School system at a rate of 2%, would go to the new SG district instead.

So if you look at all the taxes paid towards schools there is no way we'd suffer close to a 50% tax increase, but go ahead and tell everyone the sky is falling as you did the other night with your 11% crap.
This post was edited on 4/4/14 at 1:45 pm
Posted by hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
6229 posts
Posted on 4/4/14 at 1:44 pm to
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Count on adding about 50% to that bill if SG becomes its own city and school district.



I'm using your new math, that comes out to











11.

Thanks for the warning, but since I don't live in St. George, that's going to be tricky for it to affect my property taxes.

Or do you mean that once SG voters are out of the city, then the CATS coalition will be called on again to raise BR city limits property taxes by that amount?

This post was edited on 4/4/14 at 1:49 pm
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