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re: To all the Ukraine/Russia experts on the board

Posted on 4/18/24 at 9:54 am to
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118730 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 9:54 am to
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If Ukraine can beat Russia with just our weapons and not our manpower, then there is no way in hell Russia could ever threaten Poland and beyond. It doesn't make any sense to think Russia will go into Poland based on how this war has progressed (there was never a reason to believe this either).


Western banks do not have their claws into Russia. That is the crux of the matter.

If only Putin would trade Russian resources with the dollar and use SWIFT we would be friends.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
13927 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:22 am to
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Before you know it, Russia will be in Paris and London.


They don't want all of Europe. They just have to push their borders back out to geographically defensible positions, which means securing the Polish and Bessarabian Gaps and stationing static forces there. I think Putin's mistake was underestimating the extent to which NATO would back Ukraine. He probably thought that the real fight would be in Poland. Simply securing Ukraine does little to nothing for them strategically or economically.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
10905 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:51 am to
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Obviously a nation needs enforced borders if it is to continue to exist.


Your president is proving you wrong. The United States will continue to exist though never again as originally intended.
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
21504 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 10:56 am to
Because invasion is what Russia always eventually enacts to get their way. I don't know if the Cia sponsored the coup or not, but I do know Ukrainians, especially West Ukrainians, despise Russia. I've always felt that if the Eastern provinces want to join Russia, let them go. The Crimea is also a lot more Russian than Ukrainian.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50392 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:41 pm to
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Your president is proving you wrong. The United States will continue to exist though never again as originally intended.


If it isn't as originally intended, then it isn't the same country no matter what you name it.
Posted by Geronimo
Member since May 2023
388 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:48 pm to
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especially West Ukrainians, despise Russia


Yeah that was apparent when they burned 42 pro-Russia Ukrainians alive in Odesa in 2014.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
8555 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 6:02 pm to
Russia has a tremendous amount of natural resources. Those resources motivate so many.
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