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re: Time to bring back "America - Love it or Leave it"
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:56 am to Kat Kat
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:56 am to Kat Kat
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To disrespect our National Anthem on a public stage is a slap in the face of everyone that gave up their lives in defense of our freedom and liberty.
This fricking board has no idea what freedom and liberty are, because disrespecting the national anthem is exactly what you can’t do in a country that DOESN’T have freedom and liberty. And most people on here think it shouldn’t be allowed.
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Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:57 am to Kat Kat
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There are other avenues to demonstrate one's social conscious than this.
As a professional athlete, how do you suggest one protests other than this while receiving the same amount of eyeballs, and getting their point across?
Do you get this upset when a redneck wears a US flag on a tshirt? Thats more disrespectful than what these athletes are doing.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:58 am to The_Joker
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And most people on here think it shouldn’t be allowed.
Not only that, the PRESIDENT thinks it shouldn't be allowed.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:59 am to olddawg26
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These guys would make a bigger impact if they would start a media campaign educating people to comply and not do anything that would be perceived as threatening.
Black parents have these convos daily. In fact there video after video of cops provoking compliant kids to react.
There are also videos of compliance leading to death of black boys/men, with cops going home. And it's on video. So no more searching for best way to protest.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 10:59 am to LSUconvert
Stop copying my questions bruh
Posted on 9/24/17 at 11:00 am to Kat Kat
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o disrespect our National Anthem on a public stage is a slap in the face of everyone that gave up their lives in defense of our freedom and liberty.
As someone who risk his life to defend our freedom and liberty.
You couldn't be more wrong alter.
Freedom means being free to do what you feel is best. Freedom means being free to speak out against things that you feel are wrong. This country was founded on a bunch of guys speaking out against a government that was doing things that were wrong. It's people like you alter, who need to leave if you don't like the fact that Americans stand together when they feel that society is going the wrong direction.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 11:00 am to luckylefty
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There are also videos of compliance leading to death of black boys/men, with cops going home. And it's on video. So no more searching for best way to protest.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 11:00 am to olddawg26
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They think that regardless of how they act sometimes, they will be treated unfairly by a systemically unjust deep rooted issue.
But in the majority of cases this turns out not to be true. In most cases the "victim" acted aggressively, did not comply with instructions, and decided to elevate the situation to a physical altercation. I can't help that these people don't look at what actually happened in these cases. There is a reason that many of these incidents do not turn into convictions in a court of law, and its not racism.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 11:00 am to Kat Kat
So you want to install a patriotism test based on a song and a flag? I really don't give a shite about either, however, what I think and do non-violently is untouchable to any authority and if you really love America, you should embrace this ideal instead of trying to rip it apart.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 11:02 am to cssamerican
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There is a reason that many of these incidents do not turn into convictions in a court of law
Systemic racism? Corruption?
Posted on 9/24/17 at 11:02 am to olddawg26
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Stop copying my questions bruh
My bad. I've asked this in a bunch of threads. No luck, yet.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 11:05 am to olddawg26
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They think that regardless of how they act sometimes, they will be treated unfairly by a systemically unjust deep rooted issue.
And this is where the disagreement is. For example, Michael Bennett claimed he was profiled because of his race. What he didn't say is that everyone else there was black and didn't get the same treatment. Why? Because when the police came, he ran and hid behind a dumpster. That is suspicious activity and the police, for their own protection, have to act like he is armed and dangerous until they can prove otherwise.
IMO, the root cause of this stuff was when Obama started to publicly undermine police authority with his defenses of Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown. I've never heard of a situation where compliance with police officers ends in violence.
ETA: Yes, I know the Trayvon Martin incident was not police related.
This post was edited on 9/24/17 at 11:06 am
Posted on 9/24/17 at 11:05 am to luckylefty
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There are also videos of compliance leading to death of black boys/men, with cops going home. And it's on video. So no more searching for best way to protest.
The big ones that come to mind are the Brown case where it came out he charged police. The one in Baton Rouge where he resisted arrest and fought police. Not all cops are good, but these two cases have been big drivers of these protests, and in both cases non-compliance and aggressive behavior contributed heavily to the outcome.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 11:05 am to cssamerican
I'd venture to say there's more cases not on video that you never got to see that most every minority claims to be a victim of where they were maybe treated unfairly regardless of their behavior? Could that be a possibility?
Posted on 9/24/17 at 11:07 am to VADawg
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IMO, the root cause of this stuff was when Obama started to publicly undermine police authority with his defenses of Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown. I've never heard of a situation where compliance with police officers ends in violence.
Look the ROOT of the issue started way before any of us were perhaps even born. I know blaming Obama is shiny and easy, but if you can't see that it goes deeper than the last 8 years then that's honestly unbelievable
Posted on 9/24/17 at 11:11 am to asurob1
quote:Rob, you're 100% correct. Applaud your service, etc.., however, the sentiment of many who have served, is that it is an un-American act to disrespect the symbols of our country that are intended to unite, not divide us. As a sports fan, it is also a unwelcome intrusion onto our personal 'safe space', if you will, of relaxing entertainment. Just prefer my football to not come infused with politics.
As someone who risk his life to defend our freedom and liberty.
You couldn't be more wrong alter.
Freedom means being free to do what you feel is best. Freedom means being free to speak out against things that you feel are wrong. This country was founded on a bunch of guys speaking out against a government that was doing things that were wrong. It's people like you alter, who need to leave if you don't like the fact that Americans stand together when they feel that society is going the wrong direction.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 11:12 am to HubbaBubba
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however, the sentiment of many who have served, is that it is an un-American act to disrespect the symbols of our country that are intended to unite, not divide us.
but.. they're wrong?
Posted on 9/24/17 at 11:13 am to olddawg26
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Look the ROOT of the issue started way before any of us were perhaps even born. I know blaming Obama is shiny and easy, but if you can't see that it goes deeper than the last 8 years then that's honestly unbelievable
I worded my post poorly. Obama's public undermining of police officers definitely made this situation a whole hell of a lot worse though. It was as if he was giving them permission to not comply with police orders.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 11:17 am to HubbaBubba
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Just prefer my football to not come infused with politics.
I do as well.
The smart thing would have been for the President of the United States to ignore the protest of one guy who frankly didn't matter in the grand scheme of things.
Instead our president, the great divider, took what was a minor annoyance of protests and created a tsunami.
This, like many other stupid things he does, is on him.
Posted on 9/24/17 at 11:18 am to LSUconvert
quote:I'm conversing with Rob. Get to a few thousand more posts and maybe I'll consider your posts credible, and not just your morning titillation.
but.. they're wrong?
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