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Tillerson on Climate Change
Posted on 12/11/16 at 10:30 am
Posted on 12/11/16 at 10:30 am
He believes we should tax carbon emissions through cap and trade. The Obama cap and trade bill of 2009 could not even clear the Democratic Senate. He believes the Paris Climate Accord should stay in place. This is the same position as John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama.
On top of that, he believes we should end sanctions with Russia who is slowly trying to annex parts of Eastern Europe. He was just recently awarded the "Order of Friendship" from the Kremlin and Putin.
The most important post in the Administration outside of the presidency itself will be given to a guy who is arguably to the left of Hillary Clinton on foreign policy. How exactly is this draining the swamp?
Will Al Gore and Leo DiCaprio be involved in brokering this Secretary of State's new climate deals?
On top of that, he believes we should end sanctions with Russia who is slowly trying to annex parts of Eastern Europe. He was just recently awarded the "Order of Friendship" from the Kremlin and Putin.
The most important post in the Administration outside of the presidency itself will be given to a guy who is arguably to the left of Hillary Clinton on foreign policy. How exactly is this draining the swamp?
Will Al Gore and Leo DiCaprio be involved in brokering this Secretary of State's new climate deals?
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Posted on 12/11/16 at 10:31 am to PharmacistReb
Last time I checked, he wasn't the one elected President.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 10:32 am to PharmacistReb
I tend to agree with you. I am not excited over this pick. In a wait and see mode myself.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 10:33 am to bamarep
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Last time I checked, he wasn't the one elected President.
So in your mind the appointments of liberals to high ranking positions in the Administration won't mean anything.
Last time I checked, Hillary Clinton was the one responsible for Libya. Don Rumsfeld was responsible for the early failures of Iraq.
If you don't think Cabinet appointments are important, then you know absolutely nothing.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 10:38 am to PharmacistReb
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He believes we should tax carbon emissions through cap and trade. The Obama cap and trade bill of 2009 could not even clear the Democratic Senate
Him knowing there was no way cap and trade would pass didn't influence his stance at all.
It's kind of like Trump saying Obama has done a great job.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 10:40 am to PharmacistReb
Ultimately it doesn't matter what he thinks. He would be tasked with implementing Trump's foreign policy, not his own.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 10:41 am to PharmacistReb
aw frick
this is veeeeerrrry bad
this is veeeeerrrry bad
Posted on 12/11/16 at 10:41 am to PharmacistReb
Tillerson adopted public policy stances of the which ensured the success of his Job. He damn well knows that people won't tolerate trashing the Environment for Corporate profit; he knows what happened to BP.
Carbon Tax...no money out of his (Stockholders) pocket; if the folk want to pay that tax, they'll push their ELECTED Representatives to pass it.
We don't need war with Russia; it is Europe's job to handle that stuff. They dropped the ball; more interested in playing goody-goody games and allowing invasion of their Nations instead of taking care of business. They'd probably be better off with Putin running the show instead of the Mullahs as Master.
Tillerson is efficient. He'll act according to his job description. He'll be good.
Carbon Tax...no money out of his (Stockholders) pocket; if the folk want to pay that tax, they'll push their ELECTED Representatives to pass it.
We don't need war with Russia; it is Europe's job to handle that stuff. They dropped the ball; more interested in playing goody-goody games and allowing invasion of their Nations instead of taking care of business. They'd probably be better off with Putin running the show instead of the Mullahs as Master.
Tillerson is efficient. He'll act according to his job description. He'll be good.
This post was edited on 12/11/16 at 10:50 am
Posted on 12/11/16 at 10:45 am to PharmacistReb
Because the swamp is the brucreatic inertia of fighting the cold war even though Russia is no longer communist.
ETA: screw climate change, Trump EPA gonna stop that BS.
ETA: screw climate change, Trump EPA gonna stop that BS.
This post was edited on 12/11/16 at 10:47 am
Posted on 12/11/16 at 10:45 am to RCDfan1950
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We don't need war with Russia; it is Europe's job to handle that stuff. They dropped the ball; more interested in playing goody-goody games and allowing invasion of their Nations instead of taking care of business. They'd probably be better off with Putin running the show instead of the Mullahs as Master.
Ukraine is ruled by mullahs? What the hell are you talking about? He invaded a sovereign nation.
You think it's a good idea to drop sanctions and let Putin run roughshod over Eastern Europe? Neville Chamberlain also thought it was a good idea to meet Hitler in Munich so as to avoid war. Then Germany took Poland. That story ended up pretty swell, huh?
Posted on 12/11/16 at 10:46 am to PharmacistReb
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He believes the Paris Climate Accord should stay in place.
No surprise that he's a believer. Exxon was documenting climate change as far back as 1977 and withholding their research from the public. He's got more data on it than anyone else.
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Posted on 12/11/16 at 10:47 am to PharmacistReb
Why are we talking about cap and trade when we should be talking about crusade
Posted on 12/11/16 at 10:50 am to PharmacistReb
I'm sure Exxon would survive a cap and trade law, the competition, maybe not. It's kinda like if Alabama pushed to get the minimum stadium size requirement to be greater than 80,000 to be an FBS school.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 10:53 am to PharmacistReb
Many big companies would be on board with cap and trade because they would would be deeply involved in the trading business and would make a lot of money.
As CEO I would expect him to put his company in the best position to make money off of regulatory changes. If he wasn't doing this he would be not be a good CEO.
In that position is job is to advance the interests of his company and the shareholders.
In the SoS position his job is to advance the interests of his country and the people.
As CEO I would expect him to put his company in the best position to make money off of regulatory changes. If he wasn't doing this he would be not be a good CEO.
In that position is job is to advance the interests of his company and the shareholders.
In the SoS position his job is to advance the interests of his country and the people.
This post was edited on 12/11/16 at 11:22 am
Posted on 12/11/16 at 10:57 am to PharmacistReb
Settle down, snowflakes. He ain't decided yet.
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Donald J. Trump Verified account ?@realDonaldTrump
Whether I choose him or not for "State"- Rex Tillerson, the Chairman & CEO of ExxonMobil, is a world class player and dealmaker. Stay tuned!
7:29 AM - 11 Dec 2016
Posted on 12/11/16 at 10:57 am to PharmacistReb
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Ukraine is ruled by mullahs? What the hell are you talking about? He invaded a sovereign nation. You think it's a good idea to drop sanctions and let Putin run roughshod over Eastern Europe? Neville Chamberlain also thought it was a good idea to meet Hitler in Munich so as to avoid war. Then Germany took Poland. That story ended up pretty swell, huh?
I have dear friends from Ukraine, PR. It is tragic what has happened to those folk. But if the EU had embraced their Neighbors instead of PC and the Mullahs, all Europe would be better off. THEY blew it. As is - barring major and bloody revolution - Islam will be running Europe in the near future; given the next Erdogan wave to be absorbed.
Trump/Tillerson will be far more capable of brokering a deal with Russia than Hillary. She is an idiot; scattering her private business 'stuff' on the internet proves that.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:03 am to PharmacistReb
I for one think there a better than 50/50 chance it's legit - too much supporting evidence to dismiss IMO- but I don't think the answer is through a tax. I think it's through leading the world with innovation.
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:07 am to RCDfan1950
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Trump/Tillerson will be far more capable of brokering a deal with Russia than Hillary. She is an idiot; scattering her private business 'stuff' on the internet proves that.
Why are we brokering deals with Russia? This isn't a real estate negotiation. The man is committing human rights' violations, suppressing his political enemies, and invading sovereign nations against their will. You don't broker with those people. You cut their political heads off with massive sanctions. You create power transition to more moderate leadership.
We aren't going to "broker" any kind of lasting change with the current Putin regime. He has to be ousted by the current government. We need a Gorbachev type to slowly ease tensions at the Kremlin. Putin longs to be the Stalin of the 21st century.
This post was edited on 12/11/16 at 11:08 am
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:09 am to PharmacistReb
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You cut their political heads off with massive sanctions.
How are those sanctions turning out for us?
Posted on 12/11/16 at 11:10 am to BobBoucher
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I for one think there a better than 50/50 chance it's legit - too much supporting evidence to dismiss IMO- but I don't think the answer is through a tax. I think it's through leading the world with innovation.
Agree. I have no problem with climate science. I just think its quixotic and impossible to legislate away the warming of a planet. If it's man-made, we're either too late to make a difference or the slow market transition of cheap, affordable renewable energy will save us.
Our country can barely build a workable healthcare website. We're not going to legislate away the temperature of the earth. Nobody ever debates the merits of how insane it is to assume we can tax away the climate.
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