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re: Thoughts on POTUS being against peaceful protests?
Posted on 9/23/17 at 8:22 pm to LSUconvert
Posted on 9/23/17 at 8:22 pm to LSUconvert
Trump is being unnecessarily abrasive about this imo
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Posted on 9/23/17 at 8:23 pm to LSUconvert
Please tell me how you came to the conclusion that Trump is against peaceful protests.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 8:34 pm to LSUconvert
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What if they're not interested in talking about their grievances? Kneeling during the national anthem allows them to "say" what they want to, while having the most available eyes on them.
What if 30 or 40 or even 50 players all have different 'grievances' they want to address in different ways at different times during the game, maybe pre game, or during the anthem, or at halftime, etc? It'll never end if there's no push back. Just play the game.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 8:52 pm to tigermeat
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What if 30 or 40 or even 50 players all have different 'grievances' they want to address in different ways at different times during the game, maybe pre game, or during the anthem, or at halftime, etc?
I don't see your point here, kneeling doesn't prolong the game in anyway. it's not like they're advocating to not play the national anthem, they're not altering the established procedure of the event at all.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 9:02 pm to LSUconvert
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I don't see your point here, kneeling doesn't prolong the game in anyway. it's not like they're advocating to not play the national anthem, they're not altering the established procedure of the event at all.
They are saying "Look at me!" when they are not supposed to be the center of attention.
like five year olds
Posted on 9/23/17 at 9:08 pm to LSUconvert
I say he is of the same mind as me. Peaceful protests....all day, knock yourself out....disrespect the Anerican Flag and National Anthem that so many have died to keep intact..and I will knock you out.
This kind of protest is bullshite. If they hate the US then fricking leave.Go make millions in Ghana.
This kind of protest is bullshite. If they hate the US then fricking leave.Go make millions in Ghana.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:27 pm to Tigahs24Seven
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disrespect the Anerican Flag and National Anthem that so many have died to keep intact..and I will knock you out.
I don't understand why people make this into a vs military issue. It's protesting a specific issue. There's nuance, you have to think about it for more than 3 seconds.
The idea of you trying to knock out a professional football player is pretty humorous, though.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:30 pm to LSUconvert
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The idea of you trying to knock out a professional football player is pretty humorous, though.
Wouldn't want to frick with Ray Rice.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:38 pm to MF Doom
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Trump is being unnecessarily abrasive about this imo
I agree POTUS is a bit too abrasive.
I do not sympathize with the individuals kneeling for the criticism they face, although I respect their right to express themselves in such a manner.
I am glad they are free to do as they choose, but it's just highly indicative of a shitty personality/values that they chose that avenue as a protest. They deserve extreme criticism for their protest.
Side note: I can't stand hearing about how good of a player Colin K is. If he were that good of a player then his protesting would be overlooked. He is not better than other starting QBs, but he might be better than many back up QBs. I also respect the right of team owners/managers to not hire QBs who are not starting material, might not be better than their back ups, and bring a high level of warranted public criticism.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:39 pm to AMS
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but it's just highly indicative of a shitty personality/values that they chose that avenue as a protest. They deserve extreme criticism for their protest.
as a professional athlete, what form of protest would you recommend that would be as effective in getting their point across AND reaching eyeballs?
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:44 pm to LSUconvert
Thoughts on peaceful protests happening in the public square or properties contracted for that purpose, not a corporate venues where customers are paying for entertainment?
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:44 pm to LSUconvert
Maybe tattoos on their foreheads that read " I am an insufferable and entitled snowflake that has no idea what The Bill of Rights are or who fought in the Civil War and I hate me some AmeriKKKa" ? That might work , depending on the font.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:45 pm to gthog61
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They are saying "Look at me!" when they are not supposed to be the center of attention.
like five year olds
This. The silent, standing time during the anthem is for reflection on the sacrifices made by those who made it possible for the US to be in the position to have available time and resources so that civilians can play sports.
Disrespecting that memory/ideal/reflection time because you think some people colored the same way you are have a hard time because a tiny minority of those folks were denied what we consider ideally American principles/rights is inherently counterproductive.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:56 pm to LSUconvert
It's not like professional athletes can get sponsored by private companies, do charity work, be on inspiring commercials, start or participate in their own or the organizations of others.. oh wait they can, and many of them do...
instead a small minority just absolutely must insist on protesting during time that should be spent reflecting on sacrifices made by american heroes.
Do you think getting the point across in this arena is the most effective? It seems to bring a lot of (rightful) disagreement. Maybe they just shouldn't shake hands after the game because of bigotry too. Hell a coin flip to determine who goes first seems bigoted, maybe they just shouldn't chose sides of the coin either.
instead a small minority just absolutely must insist on protesting during time that should be spent reflecting on sacrifices made by american heroes.
Do you think getting the point across in this arena is the most effective? It seems to bring a lot of (rightful) disagreement. Maybe they just shouldn't shake hands after the game because of bigotry too. Hell a coin flip to determine who goes first seems bigoted, maybe they just shouldn't chose sides of the coin either.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:58 pm to LosLobos111
Name calling Is propaganda.
Posted on 9/23/17 at 10:58 pm to LSUconvert
If OP's thread title were true, I'd be against that, but since OP is a typical lying liberal douche nozzle I don't have a problem with Trump using his first amendment right to voice HIS opinion.
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