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re: This myth that Republicans in Congress would work with Obama
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:38 pm to Zed
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:38 pm to Zed
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Democrats had a chance with expanded background checks but they ruined it whining about assault weapons IMO.
that's probably part of it.
it's not just the gun bill though, that was just the first example off the top of my head.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i'm not claiming causation. i'm curious what societal consequences you're referring to, when violent crime keeps falling
When someone loses a child or a parent because of someone who shouldn't have had a gun according to the letter of our already exists law had one anyway due to those NRA lobbying efforts, that's a social consequence to me.
This post was edited on 1/31/14 at 11:41 pm
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
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you support pure democracy?
he didn't say pure democracy, which would be completely impractical
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:41 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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He doesn't at all. I can see you're blinded by your hatred of him though, which is fine. I don't like him much either (outside of social issues) but some the far right wing rhetoric on him is just stupid.
Blinded by hatred, lol.
So predictable.
I can't rationally, as an intelligent, discerning person who has observed politics closely for 20 years offer an opinion on Obama being an incompetent, destructive ideologue because I am "blinded by hatred."
Nice try.
That tactic is so fricked out.
Do I think he's a train wreck because he is black too?
You are bad at debating.
This post was edited on 1/31/14 at 11:45 pm
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:41 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
When someone loses a child or a parent because someone who shouldn't have had a gun according to the letter of our already exists law had one anyway due to those NRA lobbying efforts, that's a social consequence to me.
you do realize the irony of throwing your support behind anecdotes with your arguments in this thread, right?
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:42 pm to novabill
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He wanted to transform this country. He needed to be resisted at every turn.
And like i said in the OP, if that's your agenda then that's fine. Just be open about it. Don't blame Obama.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:42 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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he didn't say pure democracy
for being the kind of shades of grey...or at least the prince, you certainly missed that it was what he meant
hence why he said we were a constitutional republic
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:43 pm to Scoop
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You are bad at debating
I'm not trying to debate you. you're not worth my time in that regard.
This post was edited on 1/31/14 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:43 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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if he used a different "tone" or whatever Paul Ryan or some other conservatives claim is complete bullshite. GOP congressmen in both the House and Senate have been stonewalling Obama since the day he was elected in 2008 and have ratcheted up the partisan rancor at every turn. Mitch McConnell instructed Republican Senators to "make a public show" of wanting work with Obama, but to block him at every turn. If that's what your strategy is, and you just want to be such a slave to your party that you refuse to do ANYTHING that could potentially be seen as a victory for Obama (broad bipartisan public support be damned) thats fine i guess, but don't go on tv and lie to everyone about your motives.
LOL, dumbest post on Poli board in years.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:43 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:There was clearly an attempt to get republicans on board with the stimulus with tax cuts and spending well below want liberals wanted. I don't know enough about ACA negotiations to say much about any attempt at compromise, but both parties were miles apart with what they wanted to do with healthcare, and democrats went their way.
it's not just the gun bill though, that was just the first example off the top of my head.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:43 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Don't blame Obama.
If he's the instrument of transformation, how do you not blame him for his intent?
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:44 pm to TigerLicks
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LOL, dumbest post on Poli board in years.
explain to me why without relying on anything SFP has posted.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:45 pm to blackrose890
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If he's the instrument of transformation, how do you not blame him for his intent?
Blame him for the gridlock. At least not to the level that he is being blamed by the right.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:45 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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i will give your credit for being open and honest. I think you're bat shite insane but at least you aren't a liar or a hypocrite
You clearly support democracy.
Democracies always fail. History is littered with failed and always bankrupted democracies when the people figure out they can vote themselves money..
A constiutional republic is the only form of gov't that can truly sustain itself.
You think everyone on this board is bat shite insane anyway.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:48 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Isn't the grid lock what he is being blamed for?
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:48 pm to SlowFlowPro
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for being the kind of shades of grey...or at least the prince, you certainly missed that it was what he meant
#1 Well as a matter of course I believe that what the American people think has a pretty big place at the table in non-rights based issues. Much moreso than he does.
#2 I wasn't just talking about what he posted here, I was taking his posting history on here into account.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:50 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Obama wouldn't comprehend the word "statesman" if someone used Round-Up to write into the 18th fairway of his favorite golf course.
That is why this thread is getting so much action.
People can't believe you are this stupid as to believe Obama wants to work with the Republicans.
Have you been in the Marianas Trench for five years?
It drives people nuts that someone could be so deluded.
That is why this thread is getting so much action.
People can't believe you are this stupid as to believe Obama wants to work with the Republicans.
Have you been in the Marianas Trench for five years?
It drives people nuts that someone could be so deluded.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:51 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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explain to me why without relying on anything SFP has posted.
I think I heard Boehner caving again after that post.
I'm not reading this entire piece of crap thread, when I know for a fact that the libtard media bait the RINOS into "common ground" to try to win middlers.
In all honesty, if you believe the shite you spew, how does Paul Ryan, a former so called conservative start to cave on ILLEGAL immigration? What a load of crap. The real Reagan conservatives in D.C. are only a handful. And yes they are trying to stop an Imperial President at every turn they feel the need.
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:53 pm to Scoop
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People can't believe you are this stupid as to believe Obama wants to work with the Republicans.
Jesus Christ
I specifically said that he should have done things differently if he ever really had any intention of doing that in the first place, which I'm not convinced of. I don't know how i could make it any clearer that I am no friend of the President.
I'm not defending Obama here so much as I'm attacking congressional republicans, the only politicians out there more full of shite than he is.
This post was edited on 2/1/14 at 12:00 am
Posted on 1/31/14 at 11:54 pm to TigerLicks
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if you believe the shite you spew, how does Paul Ryan, a former so called conservative start to cave on ILLEGAL immigration?
scared shitless about the demographics problem that exists for Republicans these days.
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