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re: “The unhinged left is endorsing and applauding shooting Republicans,”

Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:12 pm to
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:12 pm to
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But this is what triggers you, right? This is where you plant your flag and put your foot down? This is what went too far?


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That isn't what I stated or suggested


Sure it is. You suggested it when you made excuses for the left and condemned the right for doing the same things.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79992 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:14 pm to
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What does it have to do with John Osoff?


Classic guilt by association.

The majority of the funds coming in to support his campaign are from those who agree with and endorse what happened last week. That's the point of the ad.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:14 pm to
That was a specific reference to the attack ad. I never said that Bernie always elevated political discussion, only that the attack ad lowers it. I also stated that Osoff (and Bernie) have never endorsed violence.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79992 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:15 pm to
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What do you mean by humanely destroy them?


Only allow them to eat non-organic, non sugar-substitute, meat-based meals, with a heavy emphasis on pork.

They either stick to their principles and starve to death or eat to stay alive and become pariahs in their own society.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:19 pm to
I like it, it is real, the sad truth is this is very ugly and hiding it allows it to do more damage that it can claim it is "not responsible for".
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 4:20 pm
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:20 pm to
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The majority of the funds coming in to support his campaign are from those who agree with and endorse what happened last week. That's the point of the ad.




Lol, now the majority of Osoff supporters endorse violence. Wow.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79992 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:24 pm to
Those funding Ossoff are not supporting Jon Ossoff. They are funding him because he has a D by his name.

His name could be Scrotie McBoogerballs and the Hollywood left would be pumping money in his campaign if he ran as a Democrat.
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 4:26 pm
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:25 pm to
So that means they're endorsing violence? Lol
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:27 pm to
Violence committed by left wing loons harms the Democratic Party. Those financing the campaigns don't want to see it happen. To suggest otherwise is ridiculous.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:38 pm to
bullshite
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:39 pm to
Convincing argument.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:41 pm to
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That was a specific reference to the attack ad. I never said that Bernie always elevated political discussion, only that the attack ad lowers it. I also stated that Osoff (and Bernie) have never endorsed violence.


Look...are you upset with the ad, because it does nothing to further political discourse? If so, how about criticizing Bernie Sanders and the left for not furthering political discourse. Let's not play the "we are on the higher ground" card when it is the left who contributed to breakdown of the discourse. It's been 5 months since Trump took office and it has been nothing but attacks since. Severed heads, shootings, riots....and you wanted to pick out this ad saying it did not contribute to political discourse.

I was just wondering why you decided this was the opportune time and event to make this statement?

CNN and MSNBC reporters are reporting today that the shooting was at "..Some degree self-inflicted..."

The reason discourse has broken down is because the left doesn't seem capable of understanding their role in the breakdown.
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:47 pm to
I'm not playing the "we are on higher ground card." I have been critical of the left and the media. I was critical of the right in this particular thread, and this board somehow equates that with blind loyalty to the left.

You can't make a critical post about the right without being labeled as a left wing apologist.

Create an altar and try it if you don't believe me.

Which goes back to what I said before. Political discourse is less about honest discussion and more about getting your punches in and we are all worse for it.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
79992 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:50 pm to
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Create an altar


Why would we want to create a shrine?
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112423 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 4:52 pm to
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Which goes back to what I said before. Political discourse is less about honest discussion and more about getting your punches in and we are all worse for it.


I haven't taken a punch at you, cahoots. Rush had quotes today from the shooter that exactly matched quotes from Bernie. The quotes from the shooter were to the garage mechanic just before he left on his killing spree.

Now, you could say that Bernie is not responsible for people taking his slogans to the extreme of violence. But why does it never occur in the opposite direction?

Why don't right wing loons shout "Make America Great Again" and shoot Nancy Pelosi?
This post was edited on 6/19/17 at 4:53 pm
Posted by cahoots
Member since Jan 2009
9134 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 5:00 pm to
There's a guy serving 25 years for firing rounds into the White House in November 2011. Does he count as a right wing militant or nah?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 5:02 pm to
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I'm not playing the "we are on higher ground card." I have been critical of the left and the media. I was critical of the right in this particular thread, and this board somehow equates that with blind loyalty to the left.


Then humor me. Criticize Bernie Sanders for saying Trump was destroying Democracy.

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You can't make a critical post about the right without being labeled as a left wing apologist.

You can. However, when you defend the left when it has been pointed out that the left had been more guilty of the hateful rhetoric for the past 7 months...well, it does reek of apologist.

If you want to appear as if you are being fair and not partisan, you should criticize the left as much as you do the right, and vice versa. I admit that i am not unbiased. I do call out the right at times, but I am conservative.

However, more to your point....I don't like those type ads, either. My point was that the ad is more a reaction to what the left has been doing the last 7 months or so, so I don't have a HUGE problem with it. Every severed head, and resist document and shooting displayed in that ad was direct action on the part of the left. And most of those things have been supported by the left and in fact, the shooting is now being blamed on Scalise by the left. THAT is why ads like this happen.

Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39414 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 5:02 pm to
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Classic guilt by association.


Yep. Liberals have painted the whole of the republican party as racist, sexist, xenophobes for years. Now they don't want to wear the yoke of this assholes behavior around their necks, even though their bloody rhetoric no doubt incited him in some way.

What goes around comes around.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 5:03 pm to
Add Scott Pelley of CBS to the list.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112423 posts
Posted on 6/19/17 at 5:03 pm to
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There's a guy serving 25 years for firing rounds into the White House in November 2011. Does he count as a right wing militant or nah?


I have no idea if he was right wing. Why don't you link his face book info. We KNOW that the shooter at the ball park was a Bernie worker and devotee of all that is left wing cable news. Do you want to dispute that?
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