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The psychology of the "scary gun" look of "assault rifles"
Posted on 6/3/22 at 9:36 am
Posted on 6/3/22 at 9:36 am
I get that the AR-15 etc is like any other semi-automatic rifles other than the overall look of it, but it’s that look that I think plays a role in making it desirable by the kids who want to play real life Call of Duty and feel macho etc and end up shooting up schools.
Would you agree/disagree that the aggressive styling of these rifles plays a role in making them desirable by the type of kid who goes on to be a school shooter and that it’s as if a way for them to try to feel like they are in a reel life version of video games.
And if you do agree and the aggressive styling itself contributes to mentally unstable kids gravitating towards them to pull off school shootings what’s the solution? Personally I think rather than banning the weapons outright as some want to do just enacting an age restriction on them to maybe 21 would do wonders to help limit some of the shootings that we keep seeing. The maturity level of a fresh out of school (or heck maybe still in it) 18 year old to that of a 21 year old who has a couple years to distance themselves from the school environment could be all that’s needed.
Would you agree/disagree that the aggressive styling of these rifles plays a role in making them desirable by the type of kid who goes on to be a school shooter and that it’s as if a way for them to try to feel like they are in a reel life version of video games.
And if you do agree and the aggressive styling itself contributes to mentally unstable kids gravitating towards them to pull off school shootings what’s the solution? Personally I think rather than banning the weapons outright as some want to do just enacting an age restriction on them to maybe 21 would do wonders to help limit some of the shootings that we keep seeing. The maturity level of a fresh out of school (or heck maybe still in it) 18 year old to that of a 21 year old who has a couple years to distance themselves from the school environment could be all that’s needed.
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Posted on 6/3/22 at 9:37 am to DavidTheGnome
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but it’s that look that I think plays a role in making it desirable by the kids who want to play real life Call of Duty and feel macho etc and end up shooting up schools.
Of for frick's sake, we're still trying to blame video games?
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I think rather than banning the weapons outright as some want to do just enacting an age restriction on them to maybe 21 would do wonders to help limit some of the shootings that we keep seeing.
Killing people is already illegal, you think another law is stopping someone that has decided shooting up kids is a good idea?
This post was edited on 6/3/22 at 9:39 am
Posted on 6/3/22 at 9:43 am to DavidTheGnome
The style is a component but not for the reason you think.
Josh Sugarmann of VPC about 25 years ago:
The roots of gun-control advocacy are ignorance and dishonesty. Unfortunately there are many millions of Americans, mostly Democrats, that are comfortable with their ignorance. Some are even proud of it and wear it like a badge of honor to not have a clue about the topic of firearms.
Josh Sugarmann of VPC about 25 years ago:
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Assault weapons—just like armor-piercing bullets, machine guns, and plastic firearms—are a new topic. The weapons' menacing looks, coupled with the public's confusion over fully automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons—anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun—can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons. In addition, few people can envision a practical use for these weapons.
The roots of gun-control advocacy are ignorance and dishonesty. Unfortunately there are many millions of Americans, mostly Democrats, that are comfortable with their ignorance. Some are even proud of it and wear it like a badge of honor to not have a clue about the topic of firearms.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 9:45 am to DavidTheGnome
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I get that the AR-15 etc is like any other semi-automatic rifles other than the overall look of it, but it’s that look that I think plays a role in making it desirable by the kids who want to play real life Call of Duty and feel macho etc and end up shooting up schools.
What a dumb frick thought but I'll play
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Would you agree/disagree that the aggressive styling of these rifles plays a role in making them desirable by the type of kid who goes on to be a school shooter and that it’s as if a way for them to try to feel like they are in a reel life version of video games.
A gun is a tool. Looks play no part of function. Also it's real.
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Personally I think rather than banning the weapons outright as some want to do just enacting an age restriction on them to maybe 21 would do wonders to help limit some of the shootings that we keep seeing. The maturity level of a fresh out of school (or heck maybe still in it) 18 year old to that of a 21 year old who has a couple years to distance themselves from the school environment could be all that’s needed.
Should an 18 year old go to war? Should voting rights raise to 21? Driving a car? Should I not be able to buy my kid a .22 to go squirrel hunting? A shotgun to go duck hunting?
Posted on 6/3/22 at 9:47 am to DavidTheGnome
quote:If so... you'd need to treat it like drugs. Curb the demand. You'd ban violent games and STOP EMASCULATING boys by telling them they are "toxic", "oppressors", and maybe they are really girls.
I think plays a role in making it desirable by the kids who want to play real life Call of Duty and feel macho etc and end up shooting up schools.
quote:Like it does for drinking?
The maturity level of a fresh out of school (or heck maybe still in it) 18 year old to that of a 21 year old who has a couple years to distance themselves from the school environment could be all that’s needed.
This post was edited on 6/3/22 at 9:48 am
Posted on 6/3/22 at 9:47 am to LNCHBOX
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Of for frick's sake, we're still trying to blame video games?
No that’s not what I said.
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Killing people is already illegal, you think another law is stopping someone that has decided shooting up kids is a good idea?
You’re right it’s illegal but they don’t care about that obviously, it’s a suicide decision for most of them. The point of it being to limit their access to these weapons until hopefully they mature a bit or distance themselves from the school environment that they are in/just came out of and have some sort of disdain for.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 9:48 am to LNCHBOX
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for frick's sake, we're still trying to blame video games?
the entire 'video game' milieu has as much or more to do with mass shootings than AR-15s.
And the fact that most video games have a "reset life" feature that allows immature minds to get into a 'push as far as you can' methodology.
What we need are video games that erase themselves and begin screeching ear splitting high volume noise when the player is "killed" - and that should generate an ID which prevents that user from EVER logging onto a computer of any sort FOREVER!!!. And allow that ID to be attached to any other interaction the 'player' attempts for the rest of his 'actual' life.
in other words - make it more like 'real life.'
Posted on 6/3/22 at 9:48 am to DavidTheGnome
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I get
No you don't.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 9:49 am to DavidTheGnome
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No that’s not what I said.
I must have imagined you bringing up Call of Duty. My bad.
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The point of it being to limit their access to these weapons until hopefully they mature a bit or distance themselves from the school environment that they are in/just came out of and have some sort of disdain for.
How's that working out in inner cities? And LOL at "maturing" out of a desire to actually shoot up a school
Posted on 6/3/22 at 9:49 am to DavidTheGnome
quote:Like we limit the use of weed?
The point of it being to limit their access to these weapons until hopefully they mature a bit or distance themselves from the school environment that they are in/just came out of and have some sort of disdain for.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 9:50 am to DavidTheGnome
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You’re right it’s illegal but they don’t care about that obviously, it’s a suicide decision for most of them. The point of it being to limit their access to these weapons until hopefully they mature a bit or distance themselves from the school environment that they are in/just came out of and have some sort of disdain for.
Will it make you feel warm & fuzzy inside if they increase the purchase age to 21?
Posted on 6/3/22 at 9:55 am to DavidTheGnome
Ferraris aren’t designed the way they are to look cool. They are designed to go fast.
MSRs aren’t designed the way they are to look scary and intimidating. You’re just a fricking idiot.
MSRs aren’t designed the way they are to look scary and intimidating. You’re just a fricking idiot.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 9:55 am to DavidTheGnome
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the aggressive styling
I don't think there was any 'styling' going on.
This is a form follows function situation.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 9:59 am to DavidTheGnome
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aggressive styling
Can you define exactly what this is?
Posted on 6/3/22 at 9:59 am to LNCHBOX
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I must have imagined you bringing up Call of Duty. My bad.
comparing it to the game is not necessarily blaming the game.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 10:02 am to DavidTheGnome
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The point of it being to limit their access to these weapons until hopefully they mature a bit
Please explain to me how the school shooting in Uvalde would have been different if he used a handgun. Or a gun with a wooden stock.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 10:06 am to jaytothen
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A gun is a tool. Looks play no part of function. Also it's real.
To pretend the look of the AR's etc aren’t a driving component of what makes them so popular is being dishonest.
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Should an 18 year old go to war? Should voting rights raise to 21? Driving a car? Should I not be able to buy my kid a .22 to go squirrel hunting? A shotgun to go duck hunting?
You’re missing the point. A .22 to go squirrel hunting or shotgun for duck hunting doesn’t have that aggressive look that to a mentally unstable kid makes them so appealing when they want to go kill a bunch of kids at school.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 10:09 am to DavidTheGnome
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To pretend the look of the AR's etc aren’t a driving component of what makes them so popular is being dishonest.
ARs aren't the only "scary looking" guns though. You're just doing the typical dumb liberal things yall like to do.
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You’re missing the point. A .22 to go squirrel hunting or shotgun for duck hunting doesn’t have that aggressive look that to a mentally unstable kid makes them so appealing when they want to go kill a bunch of kids at school.
I don't give a frick what your opinion is on how a gun "needs" to look. You're making a stupid emotional argument to trample on my god given rights because you're an emotional reactionary pussy. frick off.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 10:09 am to 93and99
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Will it make you feel warm & fuzzy inside if they increase the purchase age to 21?
I dunno about warm and fuzzy but it would likely reduce the number of these shootings we keep seeing and is a much more realistic solution than a lot of the proposals I’ve heard like turning schools into prisons/fortresses and putting an armed retired cop/military person in every single school etc.
Posted on 6/3/22 at 10:10 am to DavidTheGnome
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and is a much more realistic solution
Yep. Chicago is fricking crushing it in the gun violence department. 
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