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The McCain prognostications may be overly pessimistic
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:27 pm
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:27 pm
The statistics from the American Brain Tumor Association give two year survival at 30% and five years at 10%. Still bad, but not the 2% figure reported by a lot of sources. LINK
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:30 pm to Jim Rockford
My Stepfather had the same deal as McCain. Lasted six months, and it was brutal.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:32 pm to Port Royal
So while he is doing this Arizona just makes do with no representation from that seat?
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:33 pm to Jim Rockford
His age is the problem as far as percentages go.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:34 pm to gthog61
Unless he resigns. IRRC Strom Thurmond kept his seat for a considerable period while practically an invalid.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:35 pm to Jim Rockford
Maybe 80yos are less likely to make it.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:36 pm to Jim Rockford
Spoke to a doctor today, McCain could live up to 5-6 years if they don't have surgery. He could have some good years until the end.
Problem is once you have surgery to remove this tumor it usually spreads. I believe McCain had surgery on a brain tumor some years ago? Is this recurring, anyone know?
Problem is once you have surgery to remove this tumor it usually spreads. I believe McCain had surgery on a brain tumor some years ago? Is this recurring, anyone know?
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:42 pm to Jim Rockford
uh, no, His age is a HUGE factor. Plus he's a Caucasian male. Stats are against him
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Category (Avg expectancy) Historical 1-Year Survival/ 3-Year Survival/ 5-Year Survival
Age > 50, surgical removal with good neurologic function (11.2 months) -- 46% -- 7% -- 4%
Age > 50, surgical removal with poor neurologic function (7.5 months) -- 28% -- 1% -- 0%
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 7:47 pm
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:43 pm to Jim Rockford
Lindsey Graham is going to spend the next 5 years propping him up on the senate floor, Weekend at Bernie's style.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:43 pm to Jim Rockford
My dad was given 90 days initially with lung cancer. Made it nearly 2 years. Another guy I knew had the same cancer as my dad during that time. Went into the hospital thinking he was having a stroke and never came out. Died like 12 days later. Point is that the statistics are simply an estimate that includes best and worst cases but no one knows.
30% five year survival rate is still bad. He will have no quality of life if at his age if he somehow made it that long.
30% five year survival rate is still bad. He will have no quality of life if at his age if he somehow made it that long.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:48 pm to Jim Rockford
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The statistics from the American Brain Tumor Association give two year survival at 30% and five years at 10%.
He is over 80. It is highly unlikely that he makes it over 12-18 months.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:20 pm to stout
quote:Well I'm glad you got almost 2 extra years with him than expected, although that's obviously never enough.
My dad was given 90 days initially with lung cancer. Made it nearly 2 years.
quote:Yeah. It's just the expected value (median in this case) of any given case. Obviously these values have variance, and there are many factors to consider. So these things should be considered anything but a tentative estimate, and beyond that it would actually be fallacious reasoning (Ecological Fallacy).
Point is that the statistics are simply an estimate that includes best and worst cases but no one knows.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:23 pm to Jim Rockford
And I was having a good day...
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:28 pm to Jim Rockford
Hopefully he dies quickly.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:30 pm to Jim Rockford
He's evil and I'm not rooting for him
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:35 pm to CptBengal
quote:Couldn't we hope he lives, but gets out of politics as a result? Wouldn't that be a win-win?
Hopefully he dies quickly.
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:38 pm to buckeye_vol
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Hopefully he dies quickly
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:44 pm to CptBengal
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Hopefully he dies quickly.
I take that as a humane gesture. Cancer can be a slow painful death as we all know for him and his family.
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