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The McCain prognostications may be overly pessimistic

Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:27 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:27 pm
The statistics from the American Brain Tumor Association give two year survival at 30% and five years at 10%. Still bad, but not the 2% figure reported by a lot of sources. LINK
Posted by Port Royal
You Name It , I've Been There
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:30 pm to
My Stepfather had the same deal as McCain. Lasted six months, and it was brutal.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:32 pm to
So while he is doing this Arizona just makes do with no representation from that seat?
Posted by PuntBamaPunt
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:32 pm to
Posted by Ham And Glass
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:33 pm to
His age is the problem as far as percentages go.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98181 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:34 pm to
Unless he resigns. IRRC Strom Thurmond kept his seat for a considerable period while practically an invalid.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
33891 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:35 pm to
Maybe 80yos are less likely to make it.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:35 pm to
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sources


*sauces
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:36 pm to
Spoke to a doctor today, McCain could live up to 5-6 years if they don't have surgery. He could have some good years until the end.

Problem is once you have surgery to remove this tumor it usually spreads. I believe McCain had surgery on a brain tumor some years ago? Is this recurring, anyone know?
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 7:39 pm
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:42 pm to
uh, no, His age is a HUGE factor. Plus he's a Caucasian male. Stats are against him
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Category (Avg expectancy) Historical 1-Year Survival/ 3-Year Survival/ 5-Year Survival

Age > 50, surgical removal with good neurologic function (11.2 months) -- 46% -- 7% -- 4%

Age > 50, surgical removal with poor neurologic function (7.5 months) -- 28% -- 1% -- 0%
This post was edited on 7/20/17 at 7:47 pm
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:43 pm to
Lindsey Graham is going to spend the next 5 years propping him up on the senate floor, Weekend at Bernie's style.
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
Member since Sep 2006
167230 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:43 pm to
My dad was given 90 days initially with lung cancer. Made it nearly 2 years. Another guy I knew had the same cancer as my dad during that time. Went into the hospital thinking he was having a stroke and never came out. Died like 12 days later. Point is that the statistics are simply an estimate that includes best and worst cases but no one knows.

30% five year survival rate is still bad. He will have no quality of life if at his age if he somehow made it that long.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40124 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 7:48 pm to
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The statistics from the American Brain Tumor Association give two year survival at 30% and five years at 10%.


He is over 80. It is highly unlikely that he makes it over 12-18 months.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:20 pm to
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My dad was given 90 days initially with lung cancer. Made it nearly 2 years.
Well I'm glad you got almost 2 extra years with him than expected, although that's obviously never enough.
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Point is that the statistics are simply an estimate that includes best and worst cases but no one knows.
Yeah. It's just the expected value (median in this case) of any given case. Obviously these values have variance, and there are many factors to consider. So these things should be considered anything but a tentative estimate, and beyond that it would actually be fallacious reasoning (Ecological Fallacy).
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
98730 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:23 pm to
And I was having a good day...
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:28 pm to
Hopefully he dies quickly.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81629 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:30 pm to
He's evil and I'm not rooting for him
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:35 pm to
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Hopefully he dies quickly.
Couldn't we hope he lives, but gets out of politics as a result? Wouldn't that be a win-win?
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:38 pm to
quote:

Hopefully he dies quickly
Posted by catnip
Member since Sep 2003
16341 posts
Posted on 7/20/17 at 8:44 pm to
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Hopefully he dies quickly.



I take that as a humane gesture. Cancer can be a slow painful death as we all know for him and his family.
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