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The IVF Ruling Puts Republicans in a Bad Spot Just Before the Election

Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:08 pm
Posted by RFK
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Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:08 pm
I know several good, conservative, Christian families in Alabama who are using IVF because that is the only option they’re left with. They are having the same reaction you would if the government kept regulating your right to decide how you procreate. People put their family ahead of politics very quickly when backed into a corner.

The government has pretty much done all the regulating they can do when it comes to healthcare decisions on birth.

Every poll taken the past 10 years on the subject shows the vast majority of voters, conservative or liberal, believe some form of abortion should be legal, usually around 6-12 weeks.

This is currently where most state’s laws are, save for a handful of conservative states who seem to continue legislating that down, against the wishes of their constituents when they could be focusing on something meaningful.

Overall Republicans seem to be pulling ahead as we near November. There’s still just enough time left for them to squander the lead by focusing on these same old issues voters obviously don’t side with them on.
Posted by boomtown143
Merica
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:09 pm to
Trump
Will
Win
This post was edited on 2/24/24 at 7:09 pm
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
29958 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:09 pm to
Not nearly as bad a spot as the other side, full stop.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:12 pm to
It's the result of idiots on the supreme court. They don't understand
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:14 pm to
AG already came out and said nobody will be prosecuted & they will do what needs to be done to make sure IVF continues so not sure why you and others keep melting down other than to stoke fear into people


Posted by RFK
Squire Creek
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:16 pm to
An AG staying he won’t prosecute are just hollow words. After this ruling, the law is on the books.

What about the next AG?
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
7646 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:17 pm to
Will be fixed before the election.
Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:21 pm to
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After this ruling, the law is on the books.


What law is on the books? It was a civil wrongful death case. Interpreting a statute from the 1800s. They botched it. Either they’ll fix it or the Legislature will.
Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
13808 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:21 pm to
I’ve never understood how a person can be anti abortion and pro-IVF. It’s the same damned result. Maybe preaux lifers will wake the fk up.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:27 pm to
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I know several good, conservative, Christian families in Alabama who are using IVF because that is the only option they’re left with.

They can just go to another state and stay there for treatments.

Strange that right wingers are suddenly concerned about having their ability to make their own reproductive choices taken away.

This is what you voted for.
This post was edited on 2/24/24 at 7:30 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
48943 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:33 pm to
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boomtown143
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Trump
Will
Win
Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
2286 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:34 pm to
It was a stupid ruling and a pointless victory
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
13361 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:35 pm to
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I’ve never understood how a person can be anti abortion and pro-IVF. It’s the same damned result. Maybe preaux lifers will wake the fk up


yup.

that's the Catholic stance as well. (ivf and abortion not allowed)

This post was edited on 2/24/24 at 7:36 pm
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23158 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:36 pm to
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Strange that right wingers are suddenly concerned about having their ability to make their own reproductive choices taken away.


Absolute nonsense as expected.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23158 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:43 pm to
The ruling says if you frick up and kill someone's baby you can be sued.

Who can disagree with that.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
21856 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 7:43 pm to
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AG already came out and said nobody will be prosecuted & they will do what needs to be done to make sure IVF continues so not sure why you and others keep melting down other than to stoke fear into people
What happens if there’s a new AG? The legislature needs to pass a bill that codifies protections for IVF couples and doctors ASAP and get it to MeeMaw to sign
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41648 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 8:04 pm to
Maybe if we jump on the assisted suicide train, we will get more support.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23663 posts
Posted on 2/24/24 at 8:06 pm to
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The ruling says if you frick up and kill someone's baby you can be sued.

Not just sued, you are liable for punitive damages, which are not limited to the value of the loss and which are not covered by any insurance and can’t be eliminated by bankruptcy. It’s a financial death sentence.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23158 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 8:34 am to
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Not just sued, you are liable for punitive damages, which are not limited to the value of the loss and which are not covered by any insurance and can’t be eliminated by bankruptcy. It’s a financial death sentence.


How does this differ than any other medical negligence ?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 2/25/24 at 8:35 am to
No. It doesn’t.

This is a story in search of a problem.
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