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re: The IRS Had a Contract With an Email Backup Company
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:35 pm to geauxturbo
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:35 pm to geauxturbo
I'm really torn between nothing happens, and some young buck reporter finds a small glimmer and stays on it.
I'd give money right now to forensic detectives if there was a fund for this.
I could start a 501(c)4.
That being said, a large percentage of these local groups didn't even need to file with the IRS. A comedy of errors all the way around.
I'd give money right now to forensic detectives if there was a fund for this.
I could start a 501(c)4.
That being said, a large percentage of these local groups didn't even need to file with the IRS. A comedy of errors all the way around.
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Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:36 pm to monsterballads
There's a good chance there are a few people not sleeping well these past few nights, trying to figure out whether to come forward or stay quiet and hopes everyone else involved does the same.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:41 pm to NHTIGER
Here's the problem I have with all of this. Usually these things are kept tight. look back at Clinton. They had trusted people high up help they destroy (allegedly) evidence to keep the circle tight.
It's been a while. Something this large would be hard to not involve many people. Someone should have leaked something already.
Admittedly I'm not a techo guy, so maybe this premise is wrong.
It's been a while. Something this large would be hard to not involve many people. Someone should have leaked something already.
Admittedly I'm not a techo guy, so maybe this premise is wrong.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:42 pm to BACONisMEATcandy
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you're assuming that the .gov emails were used. I'm willing to bet she was using some other email address (which is referred to somewhere in her emails).
I'll bet the PRISM folks could find it. Too bad the NSA reports to the same branch of government.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:46 pm to monsterballads
Well shite they had someone doing email backup that must mean all the emails were backed up right? crap it couldn't be they were just backing up some of their emails, got to have been all of em.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:48 pm to SpidermanTUba
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Well shite they had someone doing email backup that must mean all the emails were backed up right? crap it couldn't be they were just backing up some of their emails, got to have been all of em.
Pretty much. Yeah.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:49 pm to SpidermanTUba
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crap it couldn't be they were just backing up some of their emails, got to have been all of em.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 10:55 pm to TerryDawg03
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Pretty much. Yeah.
Got to be! IRS isn't that big - just 90k employees and 130,000,000 taxpayers filing returns - obviously if you were going to back up emails may as well do them all. That's the efficient thing to do.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:00 pm to SpidermanTUba
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Well shite they had someone doing email backup that must mean all the emails were backed up right? crap it couldn't be they were just backing up some of their emails, got to have been all of em.
Holy shite. You're serious aren't you? Yes. Which is why as a worker of the state or federal government you don't get stupid over email. Its ALL public record. Everthing you do on government property is public business and property.
If she emailed momma about dinner, its backed up and public record. I worked for the state. ALL of my emails were backed up; to the point of annoyance. This is the fricking IRS.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:05 pm to geauxturbo
The government NEVER loses emails. This is UNPRECEDENTED
LINK
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Over 5 million emails may have been lost or deleted.
!!!!! H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E-S !!!!!
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 11:09 pm
Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:09 pm to SpidermanTUba
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I'm agreeing
Apologies. I read sarcasm.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:16 pm to SpidermanTUba
So, you're saying you agree with me or Clinton, Chaney/Bush, and Obama?
This post was edited on 6/20/14 at 11:22 pm
Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:36 pm to SpidermanTUba
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quote: Over 5 million emails may have been lost or deleted.
They were on backup tapes. None lost. Just "lost" in archives. They could be recovered.
Next.
Posted on 6/20/14 at 11:41 pm to SpidermanTUba
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obviously if you were going to back up emails may as well do them all. That's the efficient thing to do.
Based off the org chart I would imagine it would be quite important for a leader in a 90k employee organization to have records of emails.
IBM, Home Depot, Hewlett Packard, McDonald's, Yum Brands, etc are all examples of 350k+ employee companies whom I imagine during the years of 2009-2011 would be able to find an email from a company executive.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 12:41 am to SpidermanTUba
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The government NEVER loses emails. This is UNPRECEDENTED
bush did it. I love that excuse.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:50 am to monsterballads
Posted on 6/21/14 at 1:53 am to monsterballads
Those emails were not lost, just moved.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 5:20 am to monsterballads
quote:Regardless, the IRS says it kept 6 months of backups.
The IRS Had a Contract With an Email Backup Company
So Lerner's computer crashes, she tries to get it fixed. It can't be fixed. She gets a new computer, downloads the back up files, and voila . . . all is restored.
Not reloading those files thus allowing them to be overwritten would constitute a deliberate, willful act.
Posted on 6/21/14 at 7:56 am to monsterballads
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The IRS Had a Contract With an Email Backup Company
Sooooo... the IRS will not be renewing their contract?
Posted on 6/21/14 at 8:34 am to Wolfhound45
quote:All that is a distraction.
Sooooo... the IRS will not be renewing their contract?
The computers WERE BACKED UP!
The IRS admits they were backed up.
It does not matter if the backups were overwritten every 6 months, every 6 weeks, or even every 6 days, they were backed up.
Think about it.
If your computer "crashes" at home, and you cannot access critical files, you try to trouble shoot it. If you have no luck, and you have the thing backed up, what's your next step? Lerner's next step was supposedly to call in FBI forensics. Same for the other 6 IRS employees. But never to download their backed up files.
No one accessed the back up?
That option didn't occur to the FBI team?
Call me incredulous, but that sounds to be complete BS.
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