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The insanity of the socialization of our medical care

Posted on 2/26/20 at 10:20 am
Posted by bolo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
323 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 10:20 am
I rarely post but I am fed up with what the socialist democrats are doing and what they have done to our healthcare system. I have been in healthcare for 25 years and I have watched it become destroyed through socialized medicine

I will give you just one example of how uncontrolled it is, especially since Obamacare has been enacted.

I just saw a patient that has medicaid and unlimited visits for ER and doctor visits. She has been to the ER over 50 times in less than 3 months!!!. She will not be turned away. The average cost of an ER visit is $1389. Her ER visits alone in that time span have cost the taxpayers $70,000. That is a drop in the bucket of what is going on everyday all over this country in our ERs. I spend a fortune on health insurance that is pitiful compared to what it was pre Obamacare.

I don't care if you downvote, but I just wanted to give you an example of what I see everyday in the real world
This post was edited on 2/26/20 at 10:21 am
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35042 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 10:22 am to
The cost of LASIK is roughly half of what it was 10 years ago.

Amazing what happens when the govt and health insurance have zero input on price of a medical procedure.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 10:29 am to
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She has been to the ER over 50 times in less than 3 months!!!

I was told Obamacare would significantly cut down on this because it would give her insurance and therefore she could go to the doctor, not the ER.
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Liberty Island
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78089 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 10:30 am to
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This post was edited on 2/26/20 at 10:32 am
Posted by Uncs
Member since Aug 2008
3080 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 10:33 am to
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The cost of LASIK is roughly half of what it was 10 years ago



The best example of the value of cash and competition
Posted by bolo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
323 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 10:35 am to
It is ridiculous how many healthy people come in to be seen weekly and monthly for such minor things such as paper cuts, a cold that started two hours ago, minor aches and pains, runny nose, etc. They come in to socialize with others in the lobby. They will visit the ER and then turn right around and come as a walk in to the doctor on the same day. The waste of money and time is incredible. Unless you work in the healthcare industry, you just cannot be aware how abusive and wasteful it has become.
Posted by mikeytig
NE of Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2007
7076 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 10:35 am to
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The cost of LASIK is roughly half of what it was 10 years ago.


Great example of a health care procedure being treated as a commodity and not a "right"
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35042 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 10:37 am to
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The best example of the value of cash and competition


Had a Bernie bro who is all in on Medicare for all get completely mind blown by that fact. He then went on to say “well why can’t we do that with the rest of the medical industry”

Well, shithead, I’m all for that. But your boy Bernie wants to go in the complete opposite direction
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32254 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 10:47 am to
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She has been to the ER over 50 times in less than 3 months!!!. She will not be turned away
That's more than every other day.
quote:

The average cost of an ER visit is $1389
"Charge"; not cost. So what does she present with, as in chief complaint?
Posted by bolo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
323 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 10:53 am to
She mostly goes to the ER for complaints of pain. The pain is always ill defined and vague. It could be back pain or abdominal pain. Multiple tests are usually run that come back negative. Sometimes she is given pain medication and sometimes she is not

Even if the cost is written off, it is a waste of the resources and time of the ER. It makes the wait time longer for others who need it.

She is going to multiple ERs and sometimes 2 in the same day
This post was edited on 2/26/20 at 10:55 am
Posted by LSU Jax
Gator Country Hell
Member since Sep 2006
8874 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 10:54 am to
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It is ridiculous how many healthy people come in to be seen weekly and monthly for such minor things such as paper cuts, a cold that started two hours ago, minor aches and pains, runny nose, etc.

Amazing!! Put this option on the table and the piece-of-shite parasites come out of the woodwork. Who could possibly have foreseen such a thing?
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32712 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 10:56 am to
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32712 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 10:57 am to
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Sometimes she is given pain medication and sometimes she is not

This is why she keeps coming back.
Posted by BR Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2004
4157 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 10:58 am to
Hmm. I feel like I know you and exactly the pt
you are talking about.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 10:58 am to
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medicaid

When I qualify for this I'm getting 2 new hips, 2 new knees and I'm going from 8" to a BBC and you motherfrickers are paying the bill so suck it



Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 11:01 am to
quote:


I just saw a patient that has medicaid and unlimited visits for ER and doctor visits. She has been to the ER over 50 times in less than 3 months!!!. She will not be turned away. The average cost of an ER visit is $1389. Her ER visits alone in that time span have cost the taxpayers $70,000.


Don't forget the "free" ambulance ride and visit from the Fire Department everytime the PT calls 911.
Posted by coonasswhodat
Gonzales, Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
4112 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 11:10 am to
I will have to tell my 81 year old that she is supposed to hate her Medicare. For some strange reason, she absolutely loves it.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32254 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 11:26 am to
If they would allow a co-pay with ER visits for Medicaid patients, that would eliminate this nonsense. However, I understand why they don't do a co-pay for legit visits. Back in my day with had a fast track area for this type patient. Didn't eliminate all of the costs but it kept them from tying up limited "true" emergency beds. We were a Level 1 trauma center so this kind of crap tied up valuable resources.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27544 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 11:55 am to
I down voted you because you did not care if I did even though I share your concerns.
Posted by Snazzmeister
IHTFP
Member since Jan 2015
1077 posts
Posted on 2/26/20 at 12:02 pm to
Who knew people love free shite?
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