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Posted on 7/27/17 at 8:44 am to Luke
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The idea of equality for all in the military is comically wrong
Right. It's like shouting we must have equality in the NFL or NBA or any professional sport. It makes absolutely zero sense and everyone knows it.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 8:58 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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Wrong..
Equality is BEING equal.
Not merely treating everyone as if they were equals.
Treating everyone the same way is courtesy.
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What the frick? Are you under the impression that everyone is equal?
Is the guy with poor eyesight to be make an equal sniper to the guy with superior eyesight so that you might feel better about yourself?
That's not how the military works . Instead the military almost immediately begins classifying people . I was 17 years old when I joined the Army, went to boot camp the summer between my junior and senior year of high school, then finished high school then went to my advanced training.
Anyway in basic training they start separating people out right away. This person is not keeping up so he has to run extra, or do extra pushup , or clean the latrine every night, or pull extra fire guard duty, or whatever. This person is NOT equal to everyone else here. You don't want to be treated like this person, so strive to be equal to everyone else here, but you are NOT equal by virtue of existing.
That's the entire point of military training. When I was 19 I was in Iraq and my CO at the time told me "son, you don't belong in this unit, why the frick aren't you in college? When we cycle home you're going to college" Far as I know out of my company of 200 something men and women I'm the only that that CO essentially ordered to go to college on the Army's dime. Should they have done so for all 200 people there so they were "equal?" I doubt anyone would answer yes to that question.
Thanks for your rant, but you just took a shite ton of words to say exactly what I said in three sentences.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 8:59 am to Snipe
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Thanks for your rant, but you just took a shite ton of words to say exactly what I said in three sentences.
As my English Lit professor used to say "Why use 10 words when 100 will do?"
Posted on 7/27/17 at 10:39 am to Snipe
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Wrong..
Equality is BEING equal.
Not merely treating everyone as if they were equals.
Treating everyone the same way is courtesy.
Sorry but the military is not designed to be courteous. If it was I wouldn't have gotten my arse chewed out on a daily basis. Courtesy can get people killed. Can't remember a time I was asked to do something and there was definitely no pleases.
People in the military are not equal. If they were I wouldn't have had to salute some butter bar fresh out of OTC or that 4 star that's seen more shite than an outhouse.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 10:49 am to Luke
quote:you dont even understand that youre making the argument FOR transexuals in the military, do you? or that the left are the ones taking social engineering OUT of this equation and the right are the ones putting it IN.
Have flat feet, can't make time on your 1.5 mile run, poor eye sight, good luck passing the basic qualifications to serve. This bull shite notion of transgender or even female participation in the military is pure social engineering derived by the left.
you think people should pass basic qualifications to serve, no matter the job, pass or fail, its that simple, yes or no.
and what if a transgender passes those qualifications?
do they get the job, yes or no?
or do you want to deny them with your social engineering that dictates who is given a certain job?
what if a trans person is the BEST candidate for a job? do they get it, yes or no?
thats what you want isnt it, for the "best" people to get the job theyre suited for, without regard to any outside factors such as if theyre white or male or catholic or anything like that, right?
This post was edited on 7/27/17 at 10:53 am
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:00 am to MastrShake
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you dont even understand that youre making the argument FOR transexuals in the military, do you? or that the left are the ones taking social engineering OUT of this equation and the right are the ones putting it IN.
you think people should pass basic qualifications to serve, no matter the job, pass or fail, its that simple, yes or no.
and what if a transgender passes those qualifications?
do they get the job, yes or no?
or do you want to deny them with your social engineering that dictates who is given a certain job?
what if a trans person is the BEST candidate for a job? do they get it, yes or no?
thats what you want isnt it, for the "best" people to get the job theyre suited for, without regard to any outside factors such as if theyre white or male or catholic or anything like that, right?
Sir the UCMJ qualifications say that transgenders CAN'T pass the qualifications to serve. That's the ENTIRE point. If you can't be honest on that point, there is no need for you to be in these threads further, go play with your coloring books and let the adults talk.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:02 am to MastrShake
Not quite, transgenderism is a mental disease. Automatic disqualification
This post was edited on 7/27/17 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:04 am to Luke
quote:
The idea of equality for all in the military is comically wrong
The idea of equality for all is comically wrong, period.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:07 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
quote:so the reason they cant pass the test is because they arent allowed to take it? and you dont think thats social engineering? what if that rule was applied to other groups, how would you feel then?
Sir the UCMJ qualifications say that transgenders CAN'T pass the qualifications to serve. That's the ENTIRE point. If you can't be honest on that point, there is no need for you to be in these threads further
jfc, and you want to pretend like im the one being intellectually dishonest
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:10 am to MastrShake
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you dont even understand that youre making the argument FOR transexuals in the military, do you?
Nah, the problem is that the Left is always pushing for more and more. You could never just "let trans-sexuals serve in the military".
Eventually, it's "Transexuality is a Human Right". "Surgery for Transexuals is no different than treating a solider for CANCER! It's a MEDICAL CONDITION!" and the next thing you know we're dropping millions creating fake "vaginas" from scrotal skin on the taxpayer dime.
You're mental children, and I'm always happy when Trump treats Leftist idiots like the mental children they are. Somebody has to tell you NO, because otherwise you'll just go crazy and kill our civilization.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:16 am to Numberwang
quote:i am too actually. honestly his presidency couldn't be going any better. trump v hillary was a race to the bottom, and you won. we got to shed hillary, youre stuck with trump, and all hes doing is galvanizing people against the right.
and I'm always happy when Trump treats Leftist idiots like the mental children they are
Posted on 7/27/17 at 11:26 am to MastrShake
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so the reason they cant pass the test is because they arent allowed to take it? and you dont think thats social engineering? what if that rule was applied to other groups, how would you feel then?
jfc, and you want to pretend like im the one being intellectually dishonest
what the frick are you talking about? There is no single test to enter the military.
There are multiple tests, one of them is not being a transvestite. Same as if you're a voyeur , the military will cut you loose. That's completely separate and independent of any physical requirements. No different than it doesn't matter how many pushup you can do or fast you can run a mile if you can't also accurately shoot a weapon, you are out.
This is yet another example of why people who have not served and don't understand the military should shut the frick up about what's best for the military.
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:12 pm to MastrShake
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and all hes doing is galvanizing people against the right.
And building the wall.
And banning trannies from our military.
And appointing the best Supreme Court justices.
And rooting out the corruption of the Deep State.
And killing the DNC's mouthpiece CNN.
And...
Posted on 7/27/17 at 12:14 pm to Numberwang
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And building the wall.
And banning trannies from our military.
And appointing the best Supreme Court justices.
And rooting out the corruption of the Deep State.
And killing the DNC's mouthpiece CNN.
And...
Don't forget the biggest accomplishment of all. He finished what Obama started and kept Hillary out of the White House
Posted on 8/11/17 at 6:55 am to 56lsu
Far more than most ever will...
Posted on 8/11/17 at 7:40 am to Luke
The military requires certain physical and mental characteristics as it's ultimately about protecting our country. Whether its all out war, small conflicts, fighting terror, or protecting our shores, a military man or woman needs to be mentally stable, physically fit to some degree, and have some fight in them. Its not some desk job to occupy a cubicle until you retire. I wouldn't expect a fitness company to hire overweight people just to be fair. I wouldn't expect a construction company hiring labor for heavy lifting to hire an average woman due to physical limitations. It's not to shame or discriminate, its because its facts and life. There is a certain need and fit for the military and unfortunately everyone doesn't qualify.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 7:49 am to Luke
quote:That's the whole reason their are doing it...
It only harms our armed forces and ability to perform its duty.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:05 am to Luke
The Left and their useful idiot Democrats are willing to take heavy human casualties for their causes, just so long as it's the plebians that are doing all of the suffering and dying.
Posted on 8/11/17 at 9:06 am to Luke
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1.5 mile run
Gay
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