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re: The government is creating a hoax before our eyes
Posted on 12/19/16 at 10:14 am to TrueTiger
Posted on 12/19/16 at 10:14 am to TrueTiger
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The government has a long history of bait and switch.
1913: The income tax is made possible via Constitutional amendment. Critics protest that there is no top rate set, warning that the top rate might rise to as much as ten percent. They are assured that no such thing will ever happen.
1936: A Social Security Administration explanation of the programs says : “And finally, beginning in 1949, 12 years from now, you and your employer will each pay 3 cents on each dollar you earn, up to $3,000 a year. That is the most you will ever pay.”
1962: AFDC is expanded to “fight poverty” Democrats argue that the numbers are very small and increasing payments will help families get out of poverty. Critics say it will lead to dependency. Before welfare reform you had 15 million recipients and were entering the fourth generation of dependency.
1964 – Critics of the Civil Rights Act charge that it will result in quotas. Hubert Humphrey responds “I‘ll eat my hat if this leads to racial quotas.”
1966 – Critics claim Medicare will be too expensive. The Democratic-dominated “House Ways and Means Committee estimated that Medicare would cost only about $12 billion by 1990 (a figure that included an allowance for inflation). This was supposedly a ‘conservative’ estimate. But in 1990 Medicare actually cost $107 billion.”
2003 – Medicare Part D, drug plan is estimated to cost “only” $340 billion over ten years. Only a few years later and the cost is $540 billion and rapidly rising.
2010 - Obamacare will save the average family $2,500 in premiums and won't add to the deficit. If you like your plan you can keep you plan. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.
1988 - read my lips NO NEW TAXES
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Posted on 12/19/16 at 10:17 am to imjustafatkid
quote:It is amazing how so many people are willing to twist facts around to support their theories.
Finally, it's a lie because even IF Russia did in fact hack Hillary's servers
Posted on 12/19/16 at 10:25 am to notsince98
so the FBI and CIA, which from what i have read have both stated that Russia attempted to influence the election, are both incorrect?
so yall have zero faith in the two most prominent intelligence agencies getting this correct?
so yall have zero faith in the two most prominent intelligence agencies getting this correct?
Posted on 12/19/16 at 10:34 am to Theboot32
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yall have zero faith in the two most prominent intelligence agencies getting this correct?
The head of the NSA said both of them are full of shite.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 10:36 am to Theboot32
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so the FBI and CIA, which from what i have read have both stated that Russia attempted to influence the election, are both incorrect?
so yall have zero faith in the two most prominent intelligence agencies getting this correct?
That is incorrect on its own but do you know who the ODNI is?
Posted on 12/19/16 at 10:38 am to notsince98
quote:I can't speak for anyone else, but I'm just glad to know that they thought enough about us to tell us the truth about 9/11.
Imagine that, the government is so desperate there is zero thought or planning going into this hoax to deceive and mislead the public. The best part is most of the general public is finally seeing through this crap.
As recently as last year, if you had denied this government story about Russian hacking you'd be immediately called a conspiracy theorist and told to put your tinfoil hat on. Now, it is more main stream to not believe the government.
Now, if only everyone could step back a bit and ask themselves with a truly open mind if they honestly think this is the first time the government would collude against the people to create a blatant lie?
Whew, huh?
Posted on 12/19/16 at 10:40 am to notsince98
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That is incorrect on its own but do you know who the ODNI is?
director of national intelligence
and how is what i stated incorrect?
CNN - FBI, CIA, DNI all agree
Posted on 12/19/16 at 10:40 am to Theboot32
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dont understand the motivation to create a hoax, can you shed some light on that? is it just so that there will be doubt about the legitimacy of a MAGA president
I dhave t know if it's JUST that, but it's certainly at least that.
A successful President Trump permanently alters the political landscape in a way that is devastating to both parties. Not the people, but the crooked arse parties.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 10:42 am to notsince98
There is a good article stating that WikiLeaks has said it wasn't the Russians at least 5 times. This week WikiLeaks went out on a limb to say their source was inside the US. The neo con globalist establishments have nothing else left. Look at everything they have tried-- to no avail.
The media needs to be reporting that the DNC and Podestas team are inept imbeciles. Remember.... There was a reputable news sourced fact; that the DNC were warned and they blew it off in arrogance.
The most audacious act of all of this....Is the media preaching that polls taken say blah blah blah 60 something percent of Americans want Russians investigated. The polls are rigged. We can't believe a word out of Obama's mouth. Even though the media declares his word as gospel.
My prediction: President Trump will be elected today via the electors. Hollywood and the establishments, (some-(the GOP) more coy than others) will try like hell- to undermine everything Trump does.
They know the working class are done with them all and aren't buying the news propaganda anymore. But the hard-core truth... is that they don't GAF about anyone or anything but their pet projects and special interests and progressive utopia that was just crapped on.
The media needs to be reporting that the DNC and Podestas team are inept imbeciles. Remember.... There was a reputable news sourced fact; that the DNC were warned and they blew it off in arrogance.
The most audacious act of all of this....Is the media preaching that polls taken say blah blah blah 60 something percent of Americans want Russians investigated. The polls are rigged. We can't believe a word out of Obama's mouth. Even though the media declares his word as gospel.
My prediction: President Trump will be elected today via the electors. Hollywood and the establishments, (some-(the GOP) more coy than others) will try like hell- to undermine everything Trump does.
They know the working class are done with them all and aren't buying the news propaganda anymore. But the hard-core truth... is that they don't GAF about anyone or anything but their pet projects and special interests and progressive utopia that was just crapped on.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 10:44 am to notsince98
quote:No, it's not irrelevant. In fact, it is the essence.
I dont understand the motivation to create a hoax, can you shed some light on that? is it just so that there will be doubt about the legitimacy of a MAGA president?
You don't have to know the motivation to spot a hoax. That is irrelevant.
Elections in this country have been rigged for over 100 years. But to throw off the scent, the establishment does what it always does - turn it into a left/right issue and watch the public fight amongst themselves.
That is crucial to understand if this movement is to take the next step. Otherwise we're going to continue to fight amongst ourselves while the establishment continues to get its way.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 10:46 am to TX Tiger
I assure you the establishment did not want trump
Posted on 12/19/16 at 10:49 am to cajunangelle
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Is the media preaching that polls taken say blah blah blah 60 something percent of Americans want Russians investigated. The polls are rigged. We can't believe a word out of Obama's mouth. Even though the media declares his word as gospel.
so even if there is a chance that the russians did hack into our shite, or the dems shite, whatever, you don't want an investigation to determine either they did or did not?
while I do like the insight it provided, we can't stand by and let another country hack into our countries shite without some sort of action against them. if found to be true, we need to do something about it, if not it opens the door for future hacks and election tampering.
this is of course, if found to be accurate that the russians did it, if not, we need to find out who is responsible and punish them
Posted on 12/19/16 at 10:50 am to AjaxFury
quote:You are a fool. Trump is the worst wolf in sheep's clothing I've ever seen. How he was able to fool anyone is beyond me. But hey, Obama did the same thing eight years ago. I guess we'll just never learn.
I assure you the establishment did not want trump
Posted on 12/19/16 at 10:52 am to Theboot32
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CNN - FBI, CIA, DNI all agree
Oh look, more fake news with zero evidence to support its claims. Sad people are still falling for this fake news crap.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 10:54 am to Theboot32
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so even if there is a chance that the russians did hack into our shite, or the dems shite, whatever, you don't want an investigation to determine either they did or did not?
while I do like the insight it provided, we can't stand by and let another country hack into our countries shite without some sort of action against them. if found to be true, we need to do something about it, if not it opens the door for future hacks and election tampering.
this is of course, if found to be accurate that the russians did it, if not, we need to find out who is responsible and punish them
it is always investigated. If this crap were real it would have been an issue on or before the election day. This is all fabricated BS at this point to try and sway the EC. It will all magically disappear once the EC is done and Trump is voted in.
Posted on 12/19/16 at 11:05 am to notsince98
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Oh look, more fake news with zero evidence to support its claims.
I mean, this is a quote from the CIA director:
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Brennan wrote in part:
"Earlier this week, I met separately with (Director) FBI James Comey and DNI Jim Clapper, and there is strong consensus among us on the scope, nature, and intent of Russian interference in our presidential election."
How is this fake? how do you and others have more knowledge than the CIA director?
It seems you have your mind made up, regardless if any physical evidence is presented or not. if it is you will say its fabricated to fit the narrative, correct?
Posted on 12/19/16 at 11:08 am to Theboot32
It seems you still think all of those GOVERNMENT bodies tell the truth and have YOUR best interest at heart. You are a sheep
Posted on 12/19/16 at 11:09 am to imjustafatkid
You nailed it!
Posted on 12/19/16 at 11:11 am to Theboot32
quote:No evidence has been put forth. I do not trust any government official merely on their word, and neither should you.
How is this fake? how do you and others have more knowledge than the CIA director?
Posted on 12/19/16 at 11:11 am to Theboot32
Also, say the fricking Russians did hack the DNC emails.... do you not disagree with the media collusion and the collusion between the Clinton campaign and Super Pacs? How exactly was the election tampered with other than uncovering some nasty stuff that proved how sick and twisted your politicians and government officials are?
Why would the republican elites be trying so hard to take Trump down if he was "a sheep in wolves clothing"? Y'all are some dumb motherfrickers
Why would the republican elites be trying so hard to take Trump down if he was "a sheep in wolves clothing"? Y'all are some dumb motherfrickers
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