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re: The French Left is now blaming...you guessed it....

Posted on 2/19/17 at 4:05 pm to
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 2/19/17 at 4:05 pm to
Well dale i posted that in a thread that alludes to the idea that blaming Russia for something is preposterous, so I said maybe Russia should be blamed for some things.
Posted by Rekrul
Member since Feb 2007
7946 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 4:08 pm to
I love Russia more and more each day
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17134 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 4:10 pm to
quote:

The Russians Trump connections are making the world a better place one election at a time.


FIFY
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7232 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

Jean-Marc Ayrault is part of the ruling socialist party who's making these charges is he not?


There's no charges to speak of. The actual quote was this

quote:

"We will not accept any interference whatsoever in our electoral process, no more from Russia, by the way, than from any other state," Ayrault told parliament.


So again to my point. They don't want any issues of interference from ANY country like what happened in the US. Except the thread title asserts that they (the left) have come out and blamed russia, which is not true.

quote:

His warning came after aides to Emmanuel Macron, a pro-Europe candidate in the two-stage presidential election beginning on April 23, accused Moscow of responsibility for cyberattacks targeting the website and e-mail servers of his campaign.


The accusation came from Macron's aides which are centrists.

LINK
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
39990 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 4:16 pm to
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There's no charges to speak of. The actual quote was this



Accusations then if you well. The AP used the word denounce.


Either way its important enough a concern to the ruling left wing socailst party to hold an official meeting on Friday about it.


Which kind of clues you into to the fact that they will probably be making further accusations to make the expected loss of power seem like its not their fault and put the blame on Russia like the Dems are unsuccessfully attempting.


You'd think they'd learn.
This post was edited on 2/19/17 at 4:19 pm
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7232 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 4:33 pm to
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Either way its important enough a concern to the ruling left wing socailst party to hold an official meeting on Friday about it.


So election hacking is something the govt. should ignore is what you're saying?
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13494 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 4:53 pm to
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Ever think maybe Russia isn't 100% innocent in every case?

Ever think people are tired of the stagnation and PC cost of liberal rule! No?!

Therefore you believe the people are sheep who must have liberal overlords protect them from the evil Russians!

There is a conservative wind blowing in the West. It is not do to right leaning politicians. The ineptitude of the RNCe is a great example. It is do to negative consequences of the PC leftist rule of the last decade!

Liberals do not want to see this and will cling to any other reason. The most recent straw dog is the Russians.

Trump and his supporters know that Putin is not a good man, but they know he is the current ruler of Russia. Trump and his supporters know that America and Russia have more differences than agreements. And we desire to win more than lose in the areas of disagreement. And we hope to maximize the areas of agreement.

But bottom line, both we and Trump know that only two results are possible. We can live with Russia despite our disagreements, or we can die with Russia despite our agreements. Do liberals understand this? It doesn't appear so!

Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 4:54 pm to
Innocent of what? If they actually did try to sabatoge the globalist left in every election, id applaud them
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40124 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 5:04 pm to
Dear liberals, here is a little piece of advice. If you don't want to worry about Russia meddling then don't let your liberal Presidents shite the bed like Obama & Hollande did.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13494 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 5:30 pm to
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So election hacking is something the govt. should ignore is what you're saying?

So a few questions and an answer to yours.

Is the liberal media's collusion with the DNC acceptable? It's been longer lasting and more influential than the Russian hacking!

Why did Obama ignore the Russian hacking for so long? If it cost Hillary the election, why was he silent? Why did he not place sanctions on them sooner? Why did he choose such impotent sanctions?

Obama's attempted interference in Israeli elections failed. Was Putin more successful, and if so, how?

No we should never accept interference in our elections no matter if CNN or the Russians do it. Good answer, right?

Nor should we accept interference with the running of our government with intelligence leaks. Right?

Fortunately neither of the last two presidents ignored it. Obama placed bull shite sanctions on them, and Trump has let them stand!

Let us hope that government agents come up with an effective plan to protect us from the years of hacking Obama failed to stop! Let's also hope that some low life piece of shite government flunkie does not leak this classified information to the likes of the New York Times! They would be the first to tell the Russians for free!
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
10354 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 5:45 pm to
Can someone explain how a country with a GDP roughly equal to that of Mexico is supposedly controlling the elections of every country on the planet?
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
24768 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 5:51 pm to
Putin & Co. are putting in some serious work as of lately.


Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 2/19/17 at 5:52 pm to
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Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48935 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 5:55 pm to
Hilarious
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17009 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 5:55 pm to
Here's what I think happened:

Comrade Lavrov: I really hope Le Pen wins the French election

Putin: Me too, bro, me too.

Comrade Lavrov: Think I'm going to send Le Pen a letter of support.

Putin: Alright, baw. Just be sure to send her my condolences.

Comrade Lavrov: Will do. Hey, btw, I got my order of "Trump steaks" in today. Sent directly from Trump himself.

Putin: Really? Can I come over tonight and let's grill some? I will bring the vodka.

Comrade Lavrov: Yee, no probs.

(A week later)

French News Service: Breaking. Intel confirms Putin rigging French election. More details at 10.
Posted by 14caratgoldjones
Uniontown, Al
Member since Aug 2009
1317 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 6:03 pm to
DAMN, I never knew Russians dominated on a global scale to this extent. Can we tell them to check their white privilege? I'm literally shaking, where's my coloring book.
This post was edited on 2/19/17 at 6:52 pm
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
Member since Feb 2015
11727 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 6:20 pm to
Yet they are building them a multi billion dollar naval war ship
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7232 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 6:21 pm to
How does all of this play in to the point i was making? You're going off on several tangents.

My point was that the french govt (left) wanted to protect against any attacks like the kinds that happened in the us and the ones on the centrist pres candidate whose aides accused russians of hacking their servers.

The whole point was the OP said the french left is blaming russia, but that is in fact not accurate. They aides of the centrist candidate did that. The govt. is trying to prevent any hacking from any sources. They (the left) did not accuse russia of anything.

Do you disagree?
Posted by AirFarce1
Member since Jul 2014
250 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 6:21 pm to
quote:

I thought this was Fillon ??


It is.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13494 posts
Posted on 2/19/17 at 6:57 pm to
quote:

How does all of this play in to the point i was making? You're going off on several tangents.

Technically I didn't take your post in a tangent. In both cases I was answering posts. The first implied that Russians were interfering in French and American elections, and the second only considered the American one.
So while I wasn't responsible for the

I didn't help stop it and actually prompted it! I am sorry!

quote:

Do you disagree?


First, I must admit that my knowledge of the French Election is the equal of my interests. 0. Second, my belief is that Russia can no more influence the French elections than they did the American ones.

Therefore I will neither agree or disagree due to ignorance, and I apologize for my role in the
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