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re: The Dims Didn't Wait Long - Feinstein to Introuce Bill to Ban Bump Stocks
Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:42 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:42 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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How about this. If you suddenly start sending money overseas and purchasing large quantities of weapons and ammo, maybe someone should be taking a look at you? Anyone suggested that?
He was flagged for his wires and the FBI commented on it yesterday. They made it seem like it was no big deal. I'll try to find the article.
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:44 am to MrLarson
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He was flagged for his wires and the FBI commented on it yesterday. They made it seem like it was no big deal. I'll try to find the article.
And I'm saying that maybe such wire transfers, coupled with the gun purchases ought to be a big deal, something that the FBI and or ATF start an investigation over.
That's the kind of thing that even the staunchest NRA member should be able to say "yeah okay, that's reasonable"
Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:46 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
The problem is that the NRA has the mindset that they can't budge an inch because a mile will be taken so im not sure they'd agree. I get that, but it does lead to them kind of coming off as ridiculous sometimes.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:52 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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And I'm saying that maybe such wire transfers, coupled with the gun purchases ought to be a big deal, something that the FBI and or ATF start an investigation over.
That's the kind of thing that even the staunchest NRA member should be able to say "yeah okay, that's reasonable"
The suspicious transactions ARE a reason already to start an investigation, don't even need gun transactions.
Multiple large money transfers to a predominantly Muslim country currently undergoing multiple social "conditions" that bear watching (execution of anyone suspected of anything drug related by the govt. and ISIS terrorism).
Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:53 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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the party that appears to not care.
It appears to me they do care. They care about my constitutional rights. They care about not trampling them in order to gain a political victory that actually solves nothing.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:55 am to AUbused
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Reasonable. But then the question becomes where DO you draw the line.
Like I said, I'm not expecting anyone to necessarily endorse my view. I certainly do not want the current batch of progressive Democrats touching our gun laws or nibbling at our 2nd Amendment rights.
Unfortunately, if events like this (mass murders) keep happening, I think something will be done legislatively and it would be more bi-partisan then we would care to think of.
I am no fan though of Wayne LaPierre and the NRA mainly because they come across as unsympathetic to the innocent victims of the illegal gun violence. He kinda comes across as a dick.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:56 am to MrLarson
The Second Amendment doesn't protect bump stocks.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:57 am to Knight of Old
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because no bump stocks will mean no one will be murdered to death by guns ever again
who said this?
Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:58 am to Clyde Tipton
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It appears to me they do care. They care about my constitutional rights. They care about not trampling them in order to gain a political victory that actually solves nothing.
That's a load of partisan nonsense. The GOP doesn't care about you or your rights any more than the DNC does, this has been proven time and time again.
There is a middle ground that can be found here that balances your rights with doing as much as we can to prevent these tragedies.
Let me ask you this. Why is the RNC happy to trample rights when it comes to Islamic terrorism (Patriot Act, anyone) but suddenly you believe they care about your rights after a white nutcase kills 58 people and injures over 500 with weapons that he clearly shouldn't have had?
At this point you would have to be either stupid, or just willfully ignorant to believe that your rights are of any concern to EITHER party.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 11:58 am to Bass Tiger
Bury the dead and move on.
Congress ain't going to do jack shite...their living space is in the NRA pocket
Congress ain't going to do jack shite...their living space is in the NRA pocket
Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:02 pm to Bass Tiger
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I thought we would see a push to limit him many rounds in a clip, I'm sure that's next
Limiting clips wouldn't be a big deal. No one really shoots M1 Garands anymore. Now magazines would be an issue.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:05 pm to AUbused
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My point was that something being highly available vs highly restricted makes it more likely to be used. That is a different argument than whether something should be illegal based on constitutional rights.
Rifles are highly available yet your chance of being in a mass shooting where rifles were used is like .0000000143% in the US. How much reduction of that nearly 0% do you think banning bump stocks would help?
I don't particularly care about bump stocks either way, but it seems like if they actually cared about the safety of the citizens they could focus their efforts on just about anything else in this world and be more effective.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:28 pm to DelU249
quote:So what is the advantage of legalized bump stocks or trigger cranks?
so legislation to address a situation for which she along with the rest of the public knows very little
seems about right.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:30 pm to DelU249
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the public knows very little
Please explain, with documentation, the legitimate use of a bump stock in the normal course of use.
Other than mass murder, of course. We've seen that it's pretty effective for that.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:34 pm to BamaAtl
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Please explain, with documentation, the legitimate use of a bump stock in the normal course of use.
Other than mass murder, of course. We've seen that it's pretty effective for that.
Mass murder is not a legitimate use of the bump stock. Mostly because that would be illegal, and not legit.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:34 pm to MrLarson
Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:40 pm to AMS
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Rifles are highly available yet your chance of being in a mass shooting where rifles were used is like .0000000143% in the US. How much reduction of that nearly 0% do you think banning bump stocks would help?
Trump should have told that to the victims families today to ease their woes. It would have gone over about as well as his PR comment. Using statistics like this aren't much consolation when you're in that small percentage of people who are affected.
At any rate, I do agree and I personally think the focus should be on mental health and gun ownership, but that might not have stopped this guy either. My other main point was simply that fully auto weapons are currently highly regulated and illegal to own for the vast majority. These devices are an obvious way to get around existing law. Either make them illegal or change existing law for consistency sake.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:42 pm to AUbused
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Trump should have told that to the victims families today to ease their woes. It would have gone over about as well as his PR comment. Using statistics like this aren't much consolation when you're in that small percentage of people who are affected.
Shocked you are whining about every word Trump says
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:38 pm to AMS
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Mass murder is not a legitimate use of the bump stock
So there's no legitimate use for it?
Why does the NRA want it to be legal, then?
Posted on 10/4/17 at 1:46 pm to BamaAtl
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So there's no legitimate use for it?
Yes there is and you wont like the answer.
It's for shits and giggles while out shooting for fun. But Alt-Leftist like yourself can't wrap your minds around the fact that people do go out and shoot for sport.
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