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'The Dignity of Being Black or Hispanic in America'

Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:15 am
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:15 am
Article from the Resurgent
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These things happen and I have been thinking of them more after the Philando Castile verdict, which I, like David French, think was a miscarriage of justice. Mr. Castile was an innocent man gunned down for no cause by an overly tense police officer giving Mr. Castile conflicting orders. Mr. Castile did his best to comply with conflicting orders and was killed for doing so. That’s not right.

The verdict came around the time a friend sent me an email. He has an older, small pickup truck with an Our Lady of Guadalupe bumper sticker in Spanish on the back window of the truck. He is as white, if not whiter, than I am. But ever since he has had that truck he randomly gets pulled over. More often than not, the police officer is visibly shocked when he approaches the truck to see a white guy at the driver’s seat. The truck is a magnet for the police.

There is a pastor where I live who was once pulled over, doing the speed limit, in Texas. His wife is white and the police just wanted to make sure she was okay.

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Most of you reading this along with myself cannot relate to that. But I have a question — what does it do to the dignity and soul of a person who follows the law and still gets treated like a second class citizen? What about the equal dignity of all people? Given the Philando Castile injustice, we as a nation really need to think more about this.

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There is one last point I want to make and it is one some of you are probably making right now. You are probably thinking that if there were not so many young black men committing crime or Mexican men joining gangs or coming over as illegal aliens that the police would stop doing this. They brought it on themselves because of the behavior of so many others in their community and until they clean up their community they cannot expect otherwise.

I bet you are thinking that. I thought it too for a long time.

But I am a conservative and I oppose judging any person based on a group. Each man is entitled to his own dignity, not the dignity he gets by virtue of being a part of some group. To think otherwise is not conservative. To constantly badger an innocent man because of the behavior of those who might share his race or ethnicity is a rejection of our founding creed and the ideals of conservatism.

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Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29041 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:16 am to
Wasn't Castile all doped up?


No dignity in that.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:17 am to
Bible thumping conservatives turning into SJWs because they hate trump is my favorite subplot of 2017 the movie
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
53005 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:19 am to
Don't commit crimes if you don't wanna be profiled
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26776 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:22 am to
If the DA had swept it under the rug, I would have more sympathy, but the cop in the Castille shooting was acquitted by a jury.

Jury's acquit murderers on a daily basis. I don't see any crying over that.
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
10266 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:26 am to
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Wasn't Castile all doped up?


Yes, and that's why he had a hard time following orders.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19703 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 10:44 am to
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Mr. Castile did his best to comply with conflicting orders
I guess 'dont reach for it, don't reach for it, don't reach for it' sounds conflicting when you are driving around high as a kite with a kid in the back seat and a gun in your pocket.
This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 10:47 am
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40190 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:00 am to
downvoted;dr
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58767 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:06 am to
quote:

Bible thumping conservatives turning into SJWs because they hate trump is my favorite subplot of 2017 the movie


I find it oddly appealing, myself.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:10 am to
They were the original SJWs and they were virtue signaling way before it was cool

But what's so funny is now they've joined a chorus that fricking hates them.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81781 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:10 am to
French adopted an Ethiopian baby rather than pass along his own genes
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
9311 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:11 am to
why do many individuals of color insist on disregarding orders or fighting a cop when they are pulled over or confronted? How Fking stupid do you have to be? A guy that wonders if you are armed and have a criminal record has his hand on his own gun, is afraid for his life and asks you to comply. Over and over the evidence shows these people just didn't listen to order or fought the police.

when I get pulled over, my hands are on the wheel. Another time, I said "I can get you my insurance, but it's in the glove box next to my licensed gun" . He shined his light on the glove box and said "ok, go get it."

Nothing happened because I wasn't getting sketchy or angry when there's a guy with his hand on a gun.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:13 am to
quote:

He is as white, if not whiter, than I am

One of the white guilters I see
quote:

There is a pastor where I live who was once pulled over, doing the speed limit, in Texas. His wife is white and the police just wanted to make sure she was okay.

Facebook stories are usually bullshite
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Each man is entitled to his own dignity,

Agree
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not the dignity he gets by virtue of being a part of some group

If you lay down with dogs, you get fleas
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:15 am to
quote:

To think otherwise is not conservative.




Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111529 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:17 am to
quote:

Don't commit crimes if you don't wanna be profiled


This passes as a serious post on this board.
Posted by PuddinPopPharmacist
Member since May 2017
790 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:20 am to
And this friends is how the term cuckservative came to be.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:22 am to
No dignity? Yet we need to start a crusade for all the middle Americans doped Up on heron because they are worthy of being saved?

Wonder what the difference is
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:23 am to
Yes smoking pot should be a death sentence --- unless you're on a college campus
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90629 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:25 am to
All police profile, whether consciously or subconsciously.

I was stopped late last night coming home from the airport in Memphis. Cop claimed I was swerving, I wasn't swerving and was 100% sober and going the speed limit. I'm a white male and drive a new fully loaded gmc z71.

Only reason he pulled me over was he stereotyped that my truck looked like a rich farmer truck out at 1am on a Tuesday night on a rural highway, so to him odds were I was probably drunk. shite happens
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 6/21/17 at 11:25 am to
Have an honest discussion with a POC and hopefully they will relay some fears to you
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