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re: The apple doesn't fall far from the tree: Le Pen's recent Holocaust revisionism
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:47 am to TN Bhoy
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:47 am to TN Bhoy
I like how you keep crawfishing to try to confuse people that only have a casual understanding of the issue
Oh and Northern Ireland > Southern Ireland. I guess the reason Southern Ireland didn't leave the EU is because they know the EU always bails out third world countries!
Oh and Northern Ireland > Southern Ireland. I guess the reason Southern Ireland didn't leave the EU is because they know the EU always bails out third world countries!
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Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:48 am to TN Bhoy
newsflash: most Europeans whether they'll admit it or not hold anti semitic views and all of them are leftists as you or I would define it.
so again, who cares?
so again, who cares?
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:49 am to TN Bhoy
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economics
She's a protectionist. Like Trump.
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guns
She's in favor of citizens arming themselves.
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military
Le Pen wants to increase military spending
Dude, WTF are you talking about?
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:54 am to skrayper
You're aware that Hollande calls her 'a leaflet out of the Communist Party', right? She's called for an end to nuclear power. She clarified the 're-arm' comment to mean a 'spiritual' rearmament. She's called for a nationalisation of the banks. She's backed the Havana Charter. She's backed SYRIZA. I can go on.
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 9:59 am
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:57 am to thelawnwranglers
WTF is that?
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:58 am to Navytiger74
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She may be a socialist, but it's only for the right kind of people within her country because, you see, she is also a nationalist. You could say she's a nationalist-socialist.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 9:59 am to skrayper
Check that. Can the rule state that every page of every thread about Le Pen have a picture of the smoking hot niece?
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:03 am to TN Bhoy
What's the argument for France in 2017 rending their garments over this stuff from the 1940s?
Seems like more purposeful manufacturing of the guilt sentiment that has led to the current demographic situation in Europe.
Seems like more purposeful manufacturing of the guilt sentiment that has led to the current demographic situation in Europe.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:05 am to TN Bhoy
You moving to France anytime soon?
ETA: The niece is nice.
ETA: The niece is nice.
This post was edited on 4/11/17 at 10:09 am
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:05 am to uway
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What's the argument for France in 2017 rending their garments over this stuff from the 1940s?
Her father being a Vichy apologist and her making a big show of breaking with him a few years ago. This shows that that was all a sham.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:06 am to TN Bhoy
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You're aware that Hollande calls her 'a leaflet out of the Communist Party', right?
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Look at policies, not labels
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She's backed SYRIZA
They're the anti-austerity party. That's why she backed them.
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She's backed the Havana Charter
Things said 6 years ago don't count. Just ask Donald.
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She's called for an end to nuclear power.
That's not a "Communist" thing to do, and it was in response to a fatal accident. Sounds more like political wave-riding.
My point is, she's not nearly as "Left" as Bernie, and you didn't really address the fact that the first points you made were directly refuted.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:06 am to roadGator
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You moving to France anytime soon?
No (probably back to the US in the summer), but I have relatives around Biarritz-Bayonne and Lyon.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:09 am to TN Bhoy
Why the interest in Le Pen then?
You want Frexit?
You want Frexit?
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:12 am to skrayper
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My point is, she's not nearly as "Left" as Bernie, and you didn't really address the fact that the first points you made were directly refuted.
1. Nationalisation of banks, higher taxes on corporations, and protectionism is left as left can be on economics
2. I directly addressed the gun thing (she 'clarified' her comments)
3. On the military, she's anti-NATO, anti-service, anti-France having a role in the Maghreb, and for being a puppet of Putin, including recognising the invasion of Ukraine. A bump in spending about equal with her main rivals (even Melenchon, IIRC) isn't anything much to argue with.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:16 am to skrayper
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Things said 6 years ago don't count. Just ask Donald.
Or ask Hillary, or Bill, or Obama, or Bush, or Carter or and on and on and on and on.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:17 am to TN Bhoy
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I find it a problem that people like you are throwing away your principles because the media is telling you that someone is to the right.
So, you think France, Germany and several other European countries are currently headed in the right direction? I guess they are, if your endgame for Europe is a march towards chaos and failiure.
Eurocat and I had an exchange yesterday about some of the "low-profile" Eastern European countries, and how they were both staunchly pro-American & anti-Islam. You know what's really pathetic, tnbhoy? The fact that we are living in a time where the script has been flipped, and Western Europe is the one that should be taking their que from Eastern Europe.
Oh, how the once mighty ARE falling. Give me LePen for France. She'll stop the flow of Muslim immigrants into France, and she will (hopefully) engineer a successful French departure from the EUROPEAN. Her opponent will do neither of these things.
PS - I'm a conservative, and I don't recall ever agreeing with you on anything. Call yourself what you will, but you sure as hell aren't a conservative.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:18 am to TN Bhoy
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protectionism is left as left can be on economics
NAFTA passed despite Democratic opposition. When Obama tried to sell the TPP, most of the opposition came from his own party. The attribution of protectionism to the right is a recent phenomenon.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:31 am to KCT
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PS - I'm a conservative, and I don't recall ever agreeing with you on anything. Call yourself what you will, but you sure as hell aren't a conservative.
Maybe, just maybe, you're the one who isn't a conservative.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:33 am to TN Bhoy
LOL...you are clearly just the most understood poster here.
Say Hillary is an evil count 10 times and you may convince a few but you have to really say it with conviction.
Say Hillary is an evil count 10 times and you may convince a few but you have to really say it with conviction.
Posted on 4/11/17 at 10:36 am to TN Bhoy
I find it funny that people that consider themselves on the American political right only care about French politics when it reinforces their own ideology. As if they're constantly having to look for rationalizations for believing what they do.
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