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Tell me why I should feel sorry for long term unemployed who don't want to move?

Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:35 am
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27817 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:35 am
6-figure oil jobs lead to massive shortage of home builders

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"If you can pass a drug test and have a truck license, you can earn $100,000 a year driving an oil truck," said MacDonald.


Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
31633 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:36 am to
Hard to pass a drug test mane.
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13969 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:37 am to
It's amazing to me that liberals want to kill the oil industry and their jobs. Already did it to coal.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10666 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:37 am to
You don't have to feel sorry for them, but they may have family obligations that means taking care of or looking after sick or elderly family members. They may have children who have special needs who would be disrupted if they move. They may lack the money to move. It can take a few thousands dollars to rent and pack up a U-Haul and take your family and take care of the various expenses to move.

Some people may have obligations to their church and feel a calling from the Lord to stay in their community. Some may be divorced and do not want to move away from their children and not have the frequent visits that are important.

This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 8:38 am
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10666 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:39 am to
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It's amazing to me that liberals want to kill the oil industry and their jobs. Already did it to coal.


Not true. We mine more coal now than we did 30 years ago.
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13969 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:39 am to
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but they may have family obligations that means taking care of or looking after sick or elderly family members

With 100k, they can move too.

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It can take a few thousands dollars to rent and pack up a U-Haul and take your family and take care of the various expenses to move.


10k sign on bonuses

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Some people may have obligations to their church and feel a calling from the Lord to say in their community.


Churches all over the place

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Some may be divorced and do not want to move away from their children and not have the frequent visits that are important.


About the only valid point without a clear answer.

Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29026 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:40 am to
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Tell me why I should feel sorry for long term unemployed who don't want to move?



I don't.


You go where the work is.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
32090 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:40 am to
I doubt we burn anywhere near as much coal after Boiler MACT.

Not that it matters because natural gas is the substitute product, and I stand to gain from higher prices.
Posted by stevengtiger
Member since Jul 2013
2778 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:42 am to
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About the only valid point without a clear answer.


IMO, the people that are ok with long term unemployment don't care about most of those things mentioned. Church, kids, elderly family to take care of should push someone to have some type of income.
Posted by Holden Caulfield
Hanging with J.D.
Member since May 2008
8308 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:43 am to
I feel sorry for people with severe handicaps, either physical or mental, who cannot secure employment. The unemployed who are capable of work are off my compassion radar.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27817 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:46 am to
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they may have family obligations that means taking care of or looking after sick or elderly family members.


Well they're not unemployed due to lack of job opportunities then. They have other obligations. Which is fine. But don't complain about lack of wages.

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They may have children who have special needs who would be disrupted if they move

Many make the sacrifice to be separated from their families while they work. You don't have to move your family.

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Some people may have obligations to their church and feel a calling from the Lord to stay in their community.

Great. Church community can help out then.

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Some may be divorced and do not want to move away from their children and not have the frequent visits that are important.


I agree that it sucks. But when it comes down to it some have made this sacrifice so they can better support their families while others sit on their arse complaining.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68065 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:47 am to
Wow, a political post of yours that I mostly agree with.
Posted by Holden Caulfield
Hanging with J.D.
Member since May 2008
8308 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:48 am to
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they may have family obligations

How does being unemployed, without income, help meet those obligations?
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64619 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:50 am to
And some would seek the Lord in finding a new way to make a living. Some times you have to take a job that pays money and bills instead of waiting for the job you want comes up. The Lord said to do good work.
Posted by 20MuleTeam
West Hartford
Member since Sep 2012
3862 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:51 am to
I don't maybe, maybe because you don't want to be a heartless a hole?
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10666 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:52 am to
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With 100k, they can move too.


Let's see if you have a family member with stage III or IV cancer it's not that easy. They have doctors that they have built relationships with and moving with Stage IV cancer even if you have a year to live and money is very, very difficult and almost impossible given the care needs especially in the final months which last years. So tell a family how they can move someone who needs monthly or bi-weekly chemotherapy and is in pain and on the pain patches or medicine drips for pain about moving who needs a walker or can't even walk.

If you have family members with dementia or in a nursing home it is very difficult to move. Let's see you move a family member with dementia and pay the medical transport costs and the shear difficulty of doing it.

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Churches all over the place


Someone may be called by the Lord to minister in this one place. When God calls you and Jesus Christ comes to you and asks you to stay and be an active member of your local church and community you follow Jesus.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40095 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:52 am to
quote:

Tell me why I should feel sorry for long term unemployed who don't want to move?


I don't like to talk in absolutes but usually anybody that is long term unemployed and either doesn't move, change careers or go back to school to increase their education level so that they can get a better shot at a job is a POS.
This post was edited on 10/22/14 at 8:53 am
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35374 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 8:55 am to
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"If you can pass a drug test and have a truck license, you can earn $100,000 a year driving an oil truck," said MacDonald.

I am guessing that "can earn" doesn't mean that everyone who drives a rig is earning that on normal time, or at all. Also not everyone has a truck license or is cut out for driving a rig.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35236 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 9:00 am to
I feel bad for those that don't want to move but ultimately do, even if it takes some time. At the same time, I do acknowledge that there are legitimately difficult circumstances that may not make a move so reasonable (e.g., needing to care for a sick relative).
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64619 posts
Posted on 10/22/14 at 9:03 am to
My dad had cancerous tumor on his larynx and I left the university and went home to help. In order to help I took a job doing hotel maintenance. Stayed for ten years and worked all ten at varying jobs. Whatever it took to make money I did. God gives us gifts of all sorts and we should always make good use of them.
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