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Taking the intelligence agencies out

Posted on 8/27/22 at 10:08 am
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
6195 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 10:08 am
When you see how they are the tool for coverups and taking anyone out that gets in their way, it is evident that if America is to survive, taking these agencies out is now a higher priority than any foreign enemy(muh Russia).

Trump or any other outsider needs to shut them down, priority #1, not only to save America, but to save their own arse.

So that leads to the question of whether a president has the authority or ability to take out these treacherous agencies. They are part of the executive branch are they not? It seems the president has the power to piss trillions of dollars away in any number of ways. But the president doesn’t have the power to shut down executive branch agencies? Anyone know wtf the holdup is?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56561 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 10:10 am to
quote:

Taking the intelligence agencies out
When you see how they are the tool for coverups and taking anyone out that gets in their way, it is evident that if America is to survive, taking these agencies out is now a higher priority than any foreign enemy(muh Russia).

Trump or any other outsider needs to shut them down, priority #1, not only to save America, but to save their own arse.

So that leads to the question of whether a president has the authority or ability to take out these treacherous agencies. They are part of the executive branch are they not? It seems the president has the power to piss trillions of dollars away in any number of ways. But the president doesn’t have the power to shut down executive branch agencies? Anyone know wtf the holdup is?



It's basically impossible.

The only plausible way would be to empower the military...which opens an entire can of worms.
Posted by tagatose
South Carolina
Member since Oct 2005
2008 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 11:18 am to

Yes. They need to go.
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4224 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 11:26 am to
That's been done
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
19064 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 11:30 am to
Easier said than done. For example, let’s say Trump decided to fire all of the upper management within the FBI. Ok, then what? Who do you elevate into those positions? The guys you just fired are going to have lots of agents within the FBI who are loyal to them. If you promote them, you’re essentially back where you started. Furthermore, the guys you fired potentially have the ears of politicians and advisors around the President. Again, you could just end up back where you started with agents with a bigger ax to grind because you fired someone they were loyal to.


Thinking about it, you’d probably need incredibly tough legislation complete with severe criminal penalties that holds those in charge of the agencies to account. No more blanket “but muh national security” defense. You either cooperate or you face federal prison time.
This post was edited on 8/27/22 at 11:38 am
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
6954 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 11:32 am to
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which opens an entire can of worms.

which can did stealing an election open?
Posted by T1
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2006
3060 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 11:35 am to
Yes! The president takes an oath to defend the country from domestic enemies of the Constitution.
Posted by Dday63
Member since Sep 2014
2298 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 11:35 am to
The President would need the consent of Congress. The CIA is organized and budgeted by Congress. If a President wanted to just disband it, he would have to inform Congress of his intent. Congress could either pass legislation to preserve it, or threaten the President with removal from office should he disband it.

In short, it would require political support.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46152 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 12:09 pm to
When Bongino and Levin have finally admitted it’s time to dismantle the FBI and DHS you know it’s way past time to do so.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15843 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 12:16 pm to
If it can be done, why didn't Trump do it?
Posted by Padme
Member since Dec 2020
6195 posts
Posted on 8/27/22 at 1:44 pm to
Yeah I guess it can’t be done, but we can walk on the moon. I’m guessing Trump underestimated them, he probably didn’t think the whole agency was rotten to the core with beta bitches, muh rank and file. Like most of us, Trump wanted to think that there was some saving grace and integrity within the Government.
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