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Posted on 9/13/14 at 8:21 pm to MSCoastTigerGirl
quote:
True
True
True
All true.
Posted on 9/13/14 at 8:22 pm to Pinecone Repair
Posted on 9/13/14 at 9:59 pm to udtiger
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actively seek to be outraged and offended.
Jesus H. Christ, you could be describing 90% of the posters on this board.
Posted on 9/13/14 at 10:13 pm to Layabout
Stay focused
Posted on 9/13/14 at 10:14 pm to ballscaster
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ballcaster
Have an upvote
Posted on 9/13/14 at 10:15 pm to Tigah in the ATL
So what are we talking about? I support most feminism up to and including The Feminist Mystique (60s-70s). Pretty much everything since then sucks. I must warn you, I took a freshman level writing class a decade ago at Penn entitled "Gender across Cultures" and the prof was a 300 lb feminist lesbian, so I have a little understanding about the subject.
Posted on 9/13/14 at 10:19 pm to genro
quote:equality for women.
So what are we talking about?
Not thinking women are inferior.
I bet 90% of the women in Harvard Law School self-identify as feminists.
Posted on 9/13/14 at 10:26 pm to Tigah in the ATL
quote:
equality for women.
Not thinking women are inferior.
I feel like most here agree with those principles. Everyone should be equal.
The problem arises (as it does with most things) when the vocal/nasty minority have a louder voice than the rational. People see the SJW/Facebook activists/tumblrinas and don't hear much from the rational side.
Like most worthwhile movements, it has been hijacked by extremists.
Posted on 9/13/14 at 11:17 pm to Srbtiger06
Yep. The movement was a clear struggle for equal rights and opportunity. It was based in humanism. There was a democratic ideal to it. It aimed for a cultural shift to the basic idea you suggested: women and men are equal and can do the same things within reason. And despite your misgivings about conservative Republitards* they largely share this same ideal. Second wave feminism has pretty much succeeded.
Since then, it has completely gone off the rails. From at least the 90s onward it is not longer based in any humanistic and democratic ideals. It is based in sociological and anthropological theory. It doesn't aim to change the law, it aims to only shift the culture, man's historical role as dominant. There's no clear way to go about this of course and no clear law to change without trampling on people's rights. And it all varies from feminist to feminist because at the end of the day it's just philosophy. It's just a lot of what I call "sociological bitching."
*ETA: I meant to reply to Tigah
Since then, it has completely gone off the rails. From at least the 90s onward it is not longer based in any humanistic and democratic ideals. It is based in sociological and anthropological theory. It doesn't aim to change the law, it aims to only shift the culture, man's historical role as dominant. There's no clear way to go about this of course and no clear law to change without trampling on people's rights. And it all varies from feminist to feminist because at the end of the day it's just philosophy. It's just a lot of what I call "sociological bitching."
*ETA: I meant to reply to Tigah
This post was edited on 9/13/14 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 9/13/14 at 11:21 pm to udtiger
Change "Feminists" to "udtiger" and the answer is unequivocally "YES!".
Posted on 9/14/14 at 12:29 am to udtiger
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T/F: Feminists are, by and large, joyless and bitter and...
actively seek to be outraged and offended.
Cool stereotype, bro.
Thanks for telling us about yourself, btw.
This post was edited on 9/14/14 at 12:30 am
Posted on 9/14/14 at 12:55 am to SpidermanTUba
Spidey I could find a post of yours with stereotypical views in 2 seconds flat. Are you fricking serious with that shite?
ETA: You know what? frick it. Too easy
You made the following post after your previous one:
Dumbass.
ETA: You know what? frick it. Too easy
You made the following post after your previous one:
quote:
In general cops are some of the most aggressive and shitty drivers on the road. LINK
Dumbass.
This post was edited on 9/14/14 at 1:01 am
Posted on 9/14/14 at 1:03 am to udtiger
Mostly true
I would venture to guess that most are gay, rather than bi.
Pretty much all of them are large.
I would venture to guess that most are gay, rather than bi.
Pretty much all of them are large.
Posted on 9/14/14 at 1:03 am to genro
quote:
Spidey I could find a post of yours with stereotypical views in 2 seconds flat.
OK.
quote:
quote:
In general cops are some of the most aggressive and shitty drivers on the road. LINK
Dumbass.
I'm not sure how that makes me a "dumbass", nor do I really care to be honest.
Posted on 9/14/14 at 1:05 am to SpidermanTUba
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I'm not sure how that makes me a "dumbass", nor do I really care to be honest.
quote:What does someone's stereotype tell you about them?
Cool stereotype, bro.
Thanks for telling us about yourself, btw.
Posted on 9/14/14 at 1:43 am to udtiger
T
Modern day feminists are insane to the point where I believe they are turning people off to their causes. It's been completely hijacked by extremists.
Modern day feminists are insane to the point where I believe they are turning people off to their causes. It's been completely hijacked by extremists.
This post was edited on 9/14/14 at 1:46 am
Posted on 9/14/14 at 4:58 am to Tigah in the ATL
quote:It is what it is.
true apparently for men who bitch & whine about them as well.
Posted on 9/14/14 at 7:03 am to udtiger
Posted on 9/14/14 at 7:22 am to udtiger
western culture so-called "feminists" don't even condemn Islamic oppression of women - and one can say that the majority of Muslims don't condone violence, but certainly a much larger percent, if not a majority of Muslims, condone the oppression of women
liberals/progressives and their poser representatives on the PT board are all too lame to condemn the oppression of women by Muslims
the claim by liberals/progressives that Conservatives have a war against women and that liberals/progressives are looking out for and are the defenders of true "feminism" lacks any credence whatsoever
liberals/progressives and their poser representatives on the PT board are all too lame to condemn the oppression of women by Muslims
the claim by liberals/progressives that Conservatives have a war against women and that liberals/progressives are looking out for and are the defenders of true "feminism" lacks any credence whatsoever
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