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re: Supreme Court blocks TX & WI voter ID law
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:27 am to PBnJ
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:27 am to PBnJ
I have little problem with these laws, and I'm glad some form of personal responsibility is attached to the right to vote.
That said, I really do hate that this has a disproportionately high impact on minority and young voters.
My only concern is that if you are going to require a document to vote, then that document should be free - for everyone.
That said, I really do hate that this has a disproportionately high impact on minority and young voters.
My only concern is that if you are going to require a document to vote, then that document should be free - for everyone.
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Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:27 am to The Spleen
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Have you seen voter turnout numbers recently?
Yes
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but engaging more people in the process will eventually produce a more vested and informed voting public.
So, making sure asshats that can't even get a FREE ID can vote "more easily" will also make them "more informed"? Do you have an ID?
This post was edited on 10/10/14 at 8:28 am
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:28 am to The Spleen
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but engaging more people in the process
How does that happen by striking down voter ID laws? The apathy you lament already occurs in the face of voters not having to produce ID.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:28 am to The Spleen
quote:Engaging more people in the process by trolling votes from the disengaged. Does it ever occur that those who are disengaged, are disengaged for a reason?
but engaging more people in the process will eventually produce a more vested and informed voting public.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:30 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
A general question, how do all of these poor repressed people identify themselves on a daily basis to say cash checks or get government benefits? And if stopped by the police what do they produce to prove who they are?
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:32 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
My "making it easier to vote" comment wasn't really about Voter ID's. These laws have more things in them than just Voter ID's, namely eliminating early voting and cutting down the hours polls are open. I don't really have a problem with showing an ID to vote. If that's all these laws did, and made ID's free and easy accessible, I'd be fine with them. They go beyond that though, and essentially make voting for certain voters more difficult.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:33 am to Rickety Cricket
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How can that many people not have IDs?
Insane. Here in AL a mobile ID delivery system was set up. Exterminated the BS excuses.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:34 am to FalseProphet
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That said, I really do hate that this has a disproportionately high impact on minority and young voters.
La has had voter id laws for decades and we still elected Mary, Kathleen, Edwin and Bill.
Based on my work experience with the poor, those in La. value their state id more than most on here know. They all seem to have one and those that don't make it a point to badger my peers until they are able to get one.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:34 am to The Spleen
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These laws have more things in them than just Voter ID's, namely eliminating early voting and cutting down the hours polls are open.
I'm still unsure as to where the constitutional right to vote early exists. Sure, we've made it easier over the years to exercise your right, but I don't see how that should be necessary.
If you want to exercise your right, then why are we constitutionally required to allow you anymore than day of the election?
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:35 am to The Spleen
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but engaging more people in the process will eventually produce a more vested and informed voting public.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:36 am to The Spleen
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They go beyond that though, and essentially make voting for certain voters more difficult.
Actually, I'd suspect that the people who have the most difficulty voting are those that bust arse at work 60+ hours a week. The unemployed and apathetic have all day.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:41 am to Jake88
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Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:41 am to udtiger
Judicial tyrany is correct.
If we went back in time 200 years the framers of the constitution would have placed an arrest warrant for 90 percent of the judcial branch for treason, arrested 100 percent of the Democrats for treason.
Judges allowing babies to be murdered is an abomination and an unconstitutional position.
Judges were never meant to weild the power to create laws out of whole cloth.
The judicial branch was never meant to become a political branch, but that's all it is now, so why in the hell should a few robed sob's, who are politicized make judgements that thwart te judgements of the people?
That why we have perverts allowed to get married.
These evil sob's are the problem with America, everyone knows the judicial system has become nothing more than a political football.
If we went back in time 200 years the framers of the constitution would have placed an arrest warrant for 90 percent of the judcial branch for treason, arrested 100 percent of the Democrats for treason.
Judges allowing babies to be murdered is an abomination and an unconstitutional position.
Judges were never meant to weild the power to create laws out of whole cloth.
The judicial branch was never meant to become a political branch, but that's all it is now, so why in the hell should a few robed sob's, who are politicized make judgements that thwart te judgements of the people?
That why we have perverts allowed to get married.
These evil sob's are the problem with America, everyone knows the judicial system has become nothing more than a political football.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 8:46 am to PBnJ
It is sad that ID's are required in almost every facet of life, yet to vote in American election that decide the future of our country anybody can do it...
FORWARD!!!
FORWARD!!!
Posted on 10/10/14 at 9:03 am to Rickety Cricket
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How can that many people not have IDs?
It is very difficult for a dead person to stand up for the ID photo.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 9:04 am to goldennugget
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Judge Nelva Gonzales Ramos is a fricking racist bigot piece of shite. frick her. Saying that hispanics and blacks are so incompetent and failures at life that they can't or don't know how to get a free photo ID. fricking racist trash I hope she gets what she deserves.
quote:Maybe she'll take Ginsberg's place.
In a 147-page opinion, U.S. District Judge Nelva Gonzales Ramos, an appointee of President Barack Obama confirmed to the bench in 2011, ruled that the law passed by Texas legislators and signed by Gov. Rick Perry (R) took an “unorthodox” approach they knew would have a disparate impact on minority voters. The law requires voters to produce government-issued identification before casting a ballot.
Posted on 10/10/14 at 9:06 am to Maxx99
got to be able to cheat their asses off to try to avoid having them handed to them
Posted on 10/10/14 at 9:20 am to PBnJ
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I love when a bully likes to decide when people are too poor/incompetent/lazy to handle something on their own, and instead of being insulted by the people directly insulting them, they actually enable the bully and stand behind them.
That's because the ones that enable the bully actually are stupid and lazy. That's why we should have laws like voter ID. If you're too lazy to get a free ID then you don't give enough of a shite to deserve to vote
Posted on 10/10/14 at 10:49 am to Capital Cajun
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wonder how many of the 600k are on government assistance and need ID to receive services?
I would hope all of them, don't you?
Posted on 10/10/14 at 11:04 am to PBnJ
How is requiring a photo ID not legal?
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