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Successful Vaccine Religious Exemptions?

Posted on 9/23/21 at 2:53 pm
Posted by Tear It Up
The Deadening
Member since May 2005
13479 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 2:53 pm
Has anybody successfully gotten a religious exemption from their employer for the Covid shot?

I read a lot of people talking about it, but not hardly any “successes.”

If you have, do you have any pointers/tips to get the exemption?
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

any pointers/tips to get the exemption?



Make a donation to your church.
Posted by Big Gorilla
Bossier City
Member since Oct 2020
5455 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 3:05 pm to
The fact they use aborted cells to test vaccines is one way. They have been using aborted fetus cells to test vaccines for decades now.
Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
17480 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 3:06 pm to
Haven't done one yet, but it should be written with your church's letterhead and signed by your pastor. If you just write it yourself, it is easy to just blow past it.
Posted by Pookers
Member since Jun 2021
980 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 3:09 pm to
One does not need to go to church to be religious. Faith is a personal relationship with God. I've heard the following argument is difficult for an employer to get around, would be nice if people could verify:

"I've prayed to God about getting one of these vaccines and I sincerely feel his answer is that I should not get one. Getting one of these vaccines would be violating God's will / plan for me."
Posted by Stitches
Member since Oct 2019
870 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 3:18 pm to
I based my exemption on this. I stated that abortion offends my firmly held religious beliefs, and all currently available covid vaccines were either tested on or developed from fetal cell lines which came from aborted fetal matter. I listed the fetal cell lines that were used in testing or development of the vaccines. They said since the mRNA vaccines don't directly contain aborted fetal matter, my exemption request is denied.

It's almost like they didn't even read my submission.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111529 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 3:21 pm to
Big or small employer?
Posted by Pookers
Member since Jun 2021
980 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 3:25 pm to
When they fire you file a pro se lawsuit for civil rights violations. Pretty clear cut. Employers don't get to validate your religious beliefs.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71455 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

One does not need to go to church to be religious. Faith is a personal relationship with God. I've heard the following argument is difficult for an employer to get around, would be nice if people could verify:

"I've prayed to God about getting one of these vaccines and I sincerely feel his answer is that I should not get one. Getting one of these vaccines would be violating God's will / plan for me."


I remember when I was a recruiter, not kids I enlisted, seeing a kid in our pool get a girlfriend and when it came time to go to boot camp they said they prayed and God told them not to do it. I knew smart recruiters that right in front of the kid asked to pray and reassure the young buck that god wanted them to ship

It’s weird this stuff is even happening, it should be nobody’s business.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22377 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 3:25 pm to
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Haven't done one yet, but it should be written with your church's letterhead and signed by your pastor. If you just write it yourself, it is easy to just blow past it.


Incorrect. You don’t have to even state what religion you are. If it sincerely violates your religious beliefs on a subject then you should be good to go. The bar is set extremely low.
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 3:30 pm
Posted by Big Gorilla
Bossier City
Member since Oct 2020
5455 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 3:26 pm to
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exemption request is denied.


Did they give you a reason? Or just straight up denial.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12715 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 3:32 pm to
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The fact they use aborted cells to test vaccines is one way.

Everyone wants to use this, but there's plenty of information and arguments out there for employers to use when denying requests based on this. The easiest is that they don't contain cells from any fetus, and that they are using cells from a fetus aborted in the 70s, so you aren't condoning or contributing to an abortion.

The Catholic church put out a huge write up on why this isn't a moral issue. Agree with it or not, companies will use that if they have to.
Posted by Pookers
Member since Jun 2021
980 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 3:34 pm to
Thats part of the reason my exemption I posted above might be more effect. There's no argument for an employer to get around it. They can deny you but that would be a civil rights violation. You could also go the mark of the beast route since these mandates seem to line up quite a bit.
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 3:36 pm
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
11111 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 3:36 pm to
It only has to be a sincerely held religious belief of an established religion.
They HAVE TO accommodate you if they can within reason.
This board is full of nay saying leftists.
I'm not saying that some may not be denied, but anyone auto-rejecting religious exemptions could be in trouble.
Don't quit though, make them act
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12715 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 3:37 pm to
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They can deny you but that would be a civil rights violation.

No it wouldn't, not necessarily at least. Religious Accomodations aren't a given--that's why you have to apply for them first of all.

But I'm fairly certain courts have already ruled that a company can deny a religious accommodation if it would create an unnecessary burden on the company or be a safety issue for their employees.

ETA: I doubt they can deny it without cause. If they give a reason, and it's a valid reason, it's going to be on you to prove that they didn't give it valid consideration.
This post was edited on 9/23/21 at 3:39 pm
Posted by Pookers
Member since Jun 2021
980 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 3:38 pm to
Blanket denying your religious exemption is done before accommodation is even considered. This is a civil rights violation.
Posted by TigerVespamon
Member since Dec 2010
6081 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 3:39 pm to
quote:

it should be written with your church's letterhead and signed by your pastor.
Pretty sure that nobody can force you to divulge your religious affiliation. Simply say I can't take the vaccination based on my personal religious beliefs.
Posted by Pookers
Member since Jun 2021
980 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 3:40 pm to
That might be a good strategy as well. Giving them a long drawn out exemption opens them up for ways to deny you.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12715 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 3:41 pm to
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Blanket denying your religious exemption is done before accommodation is even considered. This is a civil rights violation.

No it's not. You don't automatically get to use religion as a reason for not doing something. There has to be something to it, and it can't cause issues for other people.

If the company argues that it puts other employees at risk and that they cannot reasonably accommodate your religious objections to not taking the vaccine without putting others at risk, they can deny it.
Posted by how333
Member since Dec 2020
2582 posts
Posted on 9/23/21 at 3:42 pm to
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