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re: Student suspended for recording lefty professor

Posted on 2/15/17 at 5:29 pm to
Posted by rbWarEagle
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 5:29 pm to
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Auburn is an SEC school, in the deep south, so the leftist know they can only push it so far.


That's your perspective, sure.

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Most likely moderates or conservatives.


No. Outright liberals.

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Once again, leftist professors who don't want the general public to hear their insane rantings.


Once again, you're just shooting from the hip. You have absolutely zero evidence to back this up.
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 5:31 pm to
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Why exactly? You don't get to take a class unless you have paid your tuition and are registered to it.

You can't just walk around a campus and randomly show up to whatever the hell you want.

This isn't some free seminar held at the local Y.


NO, but I could stand right outside the lecture hall on a public university, even with the door closed, and hear what was being said.
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 5:33 pm to
Who is talking and what they are saying is not the issue. Where they are saying it and what expectation of privacy is granted is the issue. Unless they are checking IDs at the door, just about anyone could walk in and sit down.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58039 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 5:34 pm to
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Take a look at all of the videos on YouTube where leftists object to being filmed. It's almost like they have something to hide?




talk about completely useless anecdotal evidence.

you really gonna pretend you cant find the same thing for right leaning people on YouTube?

maybe the reason you can find a ton of people on YouTube bitching about being recorded is simply b/c most people dont like being recorded?
This post was edited on 2/15/17 at 5:35 pm
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 5:40 pm to
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You may want to check into Fair Use Doctrine

Then again, I may not. I ain't no perfessor, I was just speculating on why someone may not want their lecture recorded.

In the final analysis, the syllabus said it up front, he did it anyway. frick him, he shouldn't have taken the stupid class is my opinion on the matter.

Have you ever encountered an individual who flouted the law because he thought it was stupid in your line of work? Was he/she right, or were they still a law-breaker?
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 2/15/17 at 5:50 pm to
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In the final analysis, the syllabus said it up front, he did it anyway. frick him, he shouldn't have taken the stupid class is my opinion on the matter.


Where did be accept the conditions of the syllabus. No one seems to want to answer that.

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Have you ever encountered an individual who flouted the law because he thought it was stupid in your line of work?


Yes. However, I also know the law before I try to enforce it. The college's idea of due process is a joke, so their understanding of law is wanting. God Bless them and the plaintiff's lawyer that is about to educate them.
Posted by M. A. Ryland
silver spring, MD
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 2/15/17 at 6:47 pm to
It is very reasonable for a university or professor to have a no recording policy ... They do have copyright on the lecture and make their living off charging students to hear the lecture. Even without a specific "no recording policy", the professor and university would have copyright protections for the content of the lecture.
In fact, a reasonable person would interpret a "no recording" policy to be related to the protection of copyrighted material.

Recording the professor and publishing excerpts to show "news-worthy" leftist indoctrination or rants would not be a violation of copyright (that most certainly falls within Fair Use).

So the student did nothing wrong.

I think the fact that the student has apparently been disciplined more than the professor tells you a lot about the University.
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 6:43 pm to
Bumping to post an update to this story.

LINK

A college student who recorded his professor calling President Donald Trump’s election an “act of terrorism” will not be suspended or have to send a letter of apology to the professor and school.

“[Orange Coast College’s] miscalculation leaves a blemish on its reputation,” said Bill Becker, FreedomX lead attorney and president. “We hope that the administration, staff and faculty have learned from the errors made.”
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 6:48 pm to
I didn't like it when Baptist seminary students were doing it to professors years ago either
Posted by TidenUP
Dauphin Island
Member since Apr 2011
14419 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 6:50 pm to
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“[Orange Coast College’s] miscalculation


Translation: We thought we could quietly get away with it.
Posted by financetiger
Member since Feb 2008
1666 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 6:50 pm to
GOOD! I hope this gets out to all the college campuses and the enlightened academics teaching our children. Quit trying to brainwash this generation like you did to the Millennials. We see how well that worked out.
Posted by Five0
Member since Dec 2009
11354 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 6:52 pm to
This is the group that represented the student: FreedomX
Posted by TidenUP
Dauphin Island
Member since Apr 2011
14419 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 6:55 pm to
They got a real life John Hancock on staff
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29650 posts
Posted on 2/25/17 at 7:50 pm to
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He should also lawyer up and sue them.


damn right

does this kid have a go fund me page yet?

he needs one

if this was my kid, a lawsuit would be a foregone conclusion & I am not a litigious person...

eta - responded before reading the whole thread - many thanks for the update on FreedomX
This post was edited on 2/25/17 at 7:53 pm
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 2/25/17 at 7:57 pm to
The left controls the institutions with a soviet zeal. What they will discover in the next generation is that they are devalueing the worth of their degrees and unwittingly creating a generation of students who will loathe the left. They are also putting big fat targets on their back when the culture war goes hot.
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