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Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:00 pm to
Posted by bhtigerfan
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Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:00 pm to
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If you are born white, you are twice as likely, through none of your own doing, to have two parents in the home than if you are born black. 
Such absolute bullshite. So, who's fault is it for the 75% out-of-wedlock birthrate amongst blacks? Did the white man cause this?
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Furthermore on white privilege: a law-abiding white man, through none of his own doing, gets pulled over less than a law-abiding black man. 
More bullshite. I have friends that drive like they're in a NASCAR race that get pulled over frequently. Is it because they're white? No, it's because they drive like idiots. Same with any race.

You're a fricking retard.
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
9319 posts
Posted on 3/14/17 at 11:25 pm to
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In a vacuum. Black and Hispanic nations have largely been self-autonomous for less than 90 years.


Self-autonomous, yes. But successful, safe, thriving, no way. Name one successful, first world black or Hispanic-run nation that rivals anything run by Western European-based democracies. Africa is a shithole and central/South America is tripping over themselves to sneak across the US border as fast as they can.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 8:24 am to
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So, who's fault is it for the 75% out-of-wedlock birthrate amongst blacks? Did the white man cause this?
Not the baby, hence the term "privilege." A black baby is at a statistical disadvantage, and it isn't because the white baby achieved something. Read again and try harder.
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More bullshite. I have friends that drive like they're in a NASCAR race that get pulled over frequently. Is it because they're white? No, it's because they drive like idiots. Same with any race.
Try harder, and try not to feel so threatened by this. Blacks commit a proportionally high number of crimes, putting the law-abiding black man at a disadvantage since he bears the superficial resemblance of a perp more often than a law-abiding white man does. These two men should be treated exactly the same by the law, but that can't happen, and this isn't the law-abiding black man's fault nor the law-abiding white man's accomplishment.
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You're a fricking retard.
It's you.
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 8:26 am
Posted by bigbowe80
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 1:23 pm to
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Whites have destroyed the black community and families through poverty, the wod, the "justice" system, the education system and welfare state.



So basically democrats ? Just look at what they've done since LBJ to the African American community and yea pretty much Democrats. And yet you still vote for the D like 93% of the time on average in every election. Funny how that works.
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 1:26 pm
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 1:24 pm to
Privilege is a word for the fruits of your ancestors labor.


For some reason, it's a dirty word in progressive circles. Strange.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 1:30 pm to
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Try harder, and try not to feel so threatened by this.
You're a real piece of work.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 1:36 pm to
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Not the baby, hence the term "privilege." A black baby is at a statistical disadvantage, and it isn't because the white baby achieved something. Read again and try harder.


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Try harder, and try not to feel so threatened by this. Blacks commit a proportionally high number of crimes, putting the law-abiding black man at a disadvantage since he bears the superficial resemblance of a perp more often than a law-abiding white man does. These two men should be treated exactly the same by the law, but that can't happen, and this isn't the law-abiding black man's fault nor the law-abiding white man's accomplishment.



Those are not white privileges. Those are black disadvantages OF THEIR OWN DOING.
Posted by Centinel
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 1:39 pm to
Good lord. Are Strong Safety and TJ still trying to out-tard each other on this thread?

Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 1:39 pm to
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Those are black disadvantages OF THEIR OWN DOING.
Black babies did nothing to attain the statistical disadvantages into which they're born. White babies did nothing to accomplish the statistical advantages they have.

Don't be ignorant. White privilege exists, and I've pointed it out, and though it is vastly overused by the left, that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 1:41 pm to
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For some reason, it's a dirty word in progressive circles. Strange.

The left has taken white privilege, something that exists, and turned it into a cornerstone of a bullshite agenda.

And the word "privilege" triggers the right WAY more than it does the left. Don't be silly.
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 1:42 pm
Posted by bigbowe80
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
3704 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:10 pm to
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Black babies did nothing to attain the statistical disadvantages into which they're born. White babies did nothing to accomplish the statistical advantages they have.

Don't be ignorant. White privilege exists, and I've pointed it out, and though it is vastly overused by the left, that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.




That's fine and I can accept that, if you also will admit in the same context that the white culture must also be superior (by your own definition) since this perpetual cycle seems to continue rather viciously with very derogatory results for the black community and tangible advantages for the white community. Your right that it's not the children's fault on either side, but it's on the flip side also very much a choice two consenting adults either make or do not make, and if you define that is white privilege then great but it's most assuredly a cultural phenomenon on both sides.
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 2:13 pm
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:20 pm to
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if you also will admit in the same context that the white culture must also be superior (by your own definition) since this perpetual cycle seems to continue rather viciously with very derogatory results for the black community and tangible advantages for the white community. Your right that it's not the children's fault on either side, but it's on the flip side also very much a choice two consenting adults either make or do not make, and if you define that is white privilege then great but it's most assuredly a cultural phenomenon on both sides.
I wouldn't put it that way only because I won't conflate the fact that men who are white raise their children more often than men who are black do with "culture." Furthermore, the welfare state that yields the unfortunate phenomenon we see today is the doing of a white man who grew up on a Texas ranch.

For perspective, LBJ was vocal about how horrendous it was that 27% of black kids in his time grew up without their fathers in the same home, whereas today ~30% of white kids grow up without their fathers in the home; ~70% of black kids.
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 2:22 pm
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27321 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:47 pm to
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Black babies did nothing to attain the statistical disadvantages into which they're born. White babies did nothing to accomplish the statistical advantages they have. Don't be ignorant. White privilege exists, and I've pointed it out, and though it is vastly overused by the left, that doesn't mean that it doesn't exist.
Those things have nothing to do with race.

Black babies aren't born into a bad situation because they are black. The choices of individuals in a group has no bearing on the individual child.

White privileges are things that would favor any majority group... things like not having to ask if your race played a factor in X. Or never feeling like an outcast being a minority in a white society. Things like that.

What you are talking about though is just straight-up bullshite.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 2:48 pm to
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What you are talking about though is just straight-up bullshite.

The stats back it up, so take it up with the FBI, not me.
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 6:16 pm to
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But the baby didn't choose anything. A baby born into a good situation is privileged to have been born so


By this definition, ANY CHILD who grows up in a two-parent home is "privileged." There are a lot of black children who are growing up in two-parent homes. Using your "logic,"I guess we give credit to those black parents for that, but a similar situation for a white child constitutes white privilege?

That's insane, and so are you.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 7:00 pm to
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By this definition, ANY CHILD who grows up in a two-parent home is "privileged."
Figured that out all by yourself, didn't you?
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There are a lot of black children who are growing up in two-parent homes.
You're on a roll.
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Using your "logic,"
(This is how I know a shitty point is coming.)
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I guess we give credit to those black parents for that, but a similar situation for a white child constitutes white privilege?

That's insane

Well, you're the one who said it, not me, so :mirror:

And, no. I've explained it a million times, and you keep not getting it. Statistical likelihoods are not based on an individual, but on a population, in this case, of hundreds of millions of people. You're stuck in the stupid angry redneck gear of "Wayl if thay'ud git awff waylfayre 'n git uh jawb, maybe thay woodnt be so pore!"

If you're born white, you're more likely to be raised well and less likely to be pulled over by the cops for shite you didn't do than people born black. You didn't do anything to earn any special treatment, and law-abiding people born black didn't do anything to deserve any worse treatment. You are privileged in this way. You don't owe anybody anything because of this. The left operates under the premise that you do, which is your legitimate gripe in this conversation, but the statistical disparities exist among the populations, and if you can't get this--and I'm completely serious and earnest when I say this--you are a complete idiot, and I will be making assumptions about your height, weight, number of sexual partners, and annual income that I'll keep to myself.
Posted by bigbowe80
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
3704 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:03 pm to
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I wouldn't put it that way only because I won't conflate the fact that men who are white raise their children more often than men who are black do with "culture." Furthermore, the welfare state that yields the unfortunate phenomenon we see today is the doing of a white man who grew up on a Texas ranch. For perspective, LBJ was vocal about how horrendous it was that 27% of black kids in his time grew up without their fathers in the same home, whereas today ~30% of white kids grow up without their fathers in the home; ~70% of black kids.


First of all I'm glad to see you freely admit it was a liberal democrat like LBJ who not only created this entitlement we see the fruits of today but was also his major objective with the civil rights act of 1964 to sure up the African American vote. I agree that's been a huge objective for decades upon decades. Also interesting is how you mentioned his quote about horrendous it was about blacks being without fathers. He has other quotes saying something much more nefarious with the N word used and suring up the Black vote for the next 200 years.

Also, the fact that an entitlement program that was offered to all people but has more greatly affected one particular race at an exponentially hirer rate with devastating circumstances-- you can't simply ignore the cultural applications to what that says. It's obviously a complicated subject but to totally leave culture of the equation seems irresponsible if we are trying to at least be honest and try to get to the core of a terrible vicious cycle and human condition.
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 11:10 pm
Posted by bigbowe80
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
3704 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 11:20 pm to
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If you're born white, you're more likely to be raised well and less likely to be pulled over by the cops for shite you didn't do than people born black. You didn't do anything to earn any special treatment, and law-abiding people born black didn't do anything to deserve any worse treatment. You are privileged in this way. You don't owe anybody anything because of this. The left operates under the premise that you do, which is your legitimate gripe in this conversation, but the statistical disparities exist among the populations, and if you can't get this--and I'm completely serious and earnest when I say this--you are a complete idiot, and I will be making assumptions about your height, weight, number of sexual partners, and annual income that I'll keep to myself.


Everyone accepts your statistics-- nobody is arguing the percentages of black babies born to 2 parent households versus whites. The conclusion of what that means is where I think the argument is. Obviously it is advantageous to be white and have a better chance of being in a much more healthier environment. To simply call that "white privilege" basically excuses those bad choices and naturally creates a victim mentality and jealousy from the othe group.

Basically I get all your math and I understand the concept of "privilege" but like you alluded too the left has based one of their biggest weapons to courting and keeping minority groups by saying your a victim of this privilege. Not only that, it totally leaves out of the equation the conversation about WHY those decisions were previously made and maybe even HOW this better way can be such a positive. No the left would rather just coddle you as a vulnerable victim.
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 11:21 pm
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