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re: St George vote not likely this year according to Lionel Rainey, the Third

Posted on 9/20/14 at 9:45 am to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 9/20/14 at 9:45 am to
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So according to your hogwash, the deadline was August 3rd.
I never said it was August 3. That was just the date of the newspaper article which I linked to prove you lost your bet. Your reading comprehension skills have faded with your age....and memory.
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So in your make believe world that meant September 1??????

it says at least early September.

The Registrar of Voters didn't say "early September." She said the "beginning of September." That's a big difference in meaning even with your limited reading comprehension skills.

How would you interpret "the beginning of September"? September 4th?? September 7th??? Well, those dates have already passed, too, and the petition has not been submitted.

And you accuse me of "parsing words"??

You lose.
The Baton Rouge Food Bank is going to appreciate your $1,000 donation.
This post was edited on 9/20/14 at 9:54 am
Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
11082 posts
Posted on 9/20/14 at 10:12 am to
The Secretary of State's deadline for putting propositions on the December ballot is October 21st. The Registrar of Voters would need the petitions well in advance of that in order to manually verify each and every signature before certifying the petitions and forwarding them on to the Clerk of Court to be put on the ballot.
This post was edited on 9/20/14 at 10:14 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35997 posts
Posted on 9/20/14 at 10:21 am to
Go read the article that you linked.. It says the deadline is Oct 21st as set by the SOS. That is a legal deadline not something the registrar who is an appointee says in an interview.

The Registrar said on August 3rd that she needs it(the petition)now. Is that a deadline? Later she says she needs it by the beginning of September. Is that a legal deadline? Of course it isn't.

But keep stirring the pot. There's no way to tell what you may come up with next.
38 million in taxes from the mall
11% sales tax
Property taxes will double
September 1 deadline

What else am I missing?





Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35997 posts
Posted on 9/20/14 at 10:29 am to
Exactly right.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 9/20/14 at 11:23 am to
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What else am I missing?
Pretty much everything.

No worries. I knew you'd skip out on paying your bet. Typical of you. Maybe next time before you make such a stupid bet you will stop and think about it. But I doubt it....
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 9/20/14 at 11:30 am to
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The Secretary of State's deadline for putting propositions on the December ballot is October 21st. The Registrar of Voters would need the petitions well in advance of that in order to manually verify each and every signature before certifying the petitions and forwarding them on to the Clerk of Court to be put on the ballot.

That's correct and indisputable, just as the Registrar of Voters said and just as I quoted in my post.

The petition is not turned in by the SG organizers directly to the Sec of State. Apparently doubleb can't comprehend that fact.

So the deadline to turn in the petition to the Registrar of Voters was "the beginning of September." My calendar shows "the beginning of September" to be September 1. September does not start at a later date.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35997 posts
Posted on 9/20/14 at 11:35 am to
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If you can show me an official document stating the deadline for putting a proposition on the ballot for the December La. Election was Sept. 1, 2014; I will write a check to the BR Food Bank for $1,000.00.


Again, I'm posting exactly what I challenged you to do and you have not done it.

I'm a man of my word, if you can post a legal document stating the deadline for putting a proposition on the ballot is Sept 1 I will pay the bet.

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 9/20/14 at 11:38 am to
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I bet you can't provide a link saying the deadline was Sept. First for items to be on the December ballot.


The above is your initial post in this thread asking me to bet and which I accepted when I asked you to name the stakes of the bet. You re-worded it when you realized I was about to bitch slap you with your own stupidity. Stop lying. You are definitely NOT "a man of your word." You have proven that.
This post was edited on 9/20/14 at 11:52 am
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35997 posts
Posted on 9/20/14 at 11:56 am to
Certainly, I wasn't going to make a bet that was ambiguous like the Lamb statement was.

She first said she needed the petition "now" which was August 3rd. Then she said she needed by the beginning of September. Certainly her statements to a reporter do not have the force of law. You should know that.

Eta later in the same article Ms Lamb says she needs a minimum of 4 weeks to review the petition. Four weeks prior to Oct 21st the deadline date is around Sept. 21st. It's obvious no deadline was given and it's all her opinion.


That's why I didn't want to argue about what She said because what she said was not.

My challenge still stands. It's not a bet, you have nothing to lose. Post a legal document proving 91/14 is a legal deadline and the food bank get my check.

It's just that simple.
This post was edited on 9/20/14 at 12:13 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 9/20/14 at 12:10 pm to
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Certainly, I wasn't going to make a bet
But you did. Then you changed the bet when you realized you'd lose.

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Post a legal document proving 91/14

You continue to embarrass yourself with every post.

Don't worry about honoring your bet to donate $1,000 to the BR Food Bank. I give more than that to the Food Bank every year.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
35997 posts
Posted on 9/20/14 at 12:14 pm to
Obviously you can't meet the challenge or you would have.
Just as you couldn't meet the challenge to proving your. 38 million dollar assertion regarding MOL sales tax revenues.

I'll check back later, but I doubt you'll have anything better. Keep trying.


This post was edited on 9/20/14 at 12:19 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 9/20/14 at 12:37 pm to
I accepted your bet. You then changed the terms of the bet. Now you're declaring victory based on the change.
Posted by RidiculousHype
St. George, LA
Member since Sep 2007
10196 posts
Posted on 9/20/14 at 1:23 pm to
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“We really would need the names by now (August 3),” Lamb said, referring to the time needed to make a December ballot. “But we at least need them by the beginning of September.”


This doesn't sound like a deadline to me. Reading between the lines, this lady is saying she'd like to have them Aug 3 to make her job less stressful, but that if she really had to she could get them at the beginning of Sept and still get it done.

A deadline to me is something written down in a legally binding document.

Either way, the St George movement will need some positive PR soon or risk losing the momentum gathered when they announced they had the 25% of the signatures.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 9/20/14 at 1:28 pm to
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A deadline to me is something written down in a legally binding document.
So you ignore the Pick 'Em deadline on TD?
A deadline is the time limit when something must be done or it's too late.
Posted by Me4Heisman
Landmass
Member since Aug 2004
5509 posts
Posted on 9/20/14 at 1:39 pm to
Would you mind disclosing your financial interest in the outcome of SG?
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79634 posts
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:33 pm to
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Would you mind disclosing your financial interest in the outcome of SG?



I'm more interested in why he's so opposed to even bringing the issue to a vote.

Even though I live in St. George, I don't really have a dog in the fight. But I signed the petition because the tactics Kip & Co. are employing to keep the issue from even coming to a vote really pissed me off.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:38 pm to
I did...above in this thread.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 9/20/14 at 2:42 pm to
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I'm more interested in why he's so opposed to even bringing the issue to a vote

Find one post by me where I've said SG voters should not be allowed to vote on incorporation and I'll never post in a SG thread again. You're assuming something that's not true.

I've noticed a pattern where SG residents ignore facts and just make up crap.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
79634 posts
Posted on 9/20/14 at 3:29 pm to
Your post history sure doesn't seem indicate any particular interest in seeing the issue come to a vote.

If I've misread that, then my sincerest apologies.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 9/20/14 at 3:39 pm to
I have posted several times I want the vote to happen sooner rather than later. This dragging it out just increases the uncertainty and the division in our community.

You probably interpreted my disgust with the organizers seemingly forever pushing back the petition submittal date as me not wanting a vote to happen.

That's the closest I've ever come to opining about the vote taking place. I accept your apology. Thanks.
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