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re: St. George school district would force construction of more schools than planned
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:17 am to LSURussian
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:17 am to LSURussian
The report is from the same group that brought you the CATS debacle! How is that working for you?
The EBRPSS administration should be sued for malfeasance due to taking taxes and not building schools in the non-incorporated areas. Only supporting building of schools in failing areas.
Baton Rouge Magnet will cease to exist if St. George school district approved. Look at the stats! Over 500 students live in the St. George area. They are not proximity students. Baton Rouge Magnet will be 95% black and that means that St. George will have immediately access to 500+ students to create a magnet school with high ACT and SAT scores. Recruitment is the key, not proximity to schools.
Where these 500 + students attend classes, this school will be in the top ten schools in LA! I know LSURussian, "You can't handle the truth"!
My suggestion! Pay the McCann's team over $300 K per year plus deferred income to set up Magnet school programs in St. George. OH! by the way they can also draw on their EBRPSS retirement for a couple of years, but then the EBRPSS will be bankrupt.
The Gardere area pastors are saying! We rather send our children to failing schools.
The EBRPSS administration should be sued for malfeasance due to taking taxes and not building schools in the non-incorporated areas. Only supporting building of schools in failing areas.
Baton Rouge Magnet will cease to exist if St. George school district approved. Look at the stats! Over 500 students live in the St. George area. They are not proximity students. Baton Rouge Magnet will be 95% black and that means that St. George will have immediately access to 500+ students to create a magnet school with high ACT and SAT scores. Recruitment is the key, not proximity to schools.
Where these 500 + students attend classes, this school will be in the top ten schools in LA! I know LSURussian, "You can't handle the truth"!
My suggestion! Pay the McCann's team over $300 K per year plus deferred income to set up Magnet school programs in St. George. OH! by the way they can also draw on their EBRPSS retirement for a couple of years, but then the EBRPSS will be bankrupt.
The Gardere area pastors are saying! We rather send our children to failing schools.
This post was edited on 11/4/14 at 10:46 am
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Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:21 am to LSURussian
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Not one SG fan boy in this thread has provided anything of substance disputing anything the newspaper article I linked to said.
Actually, we don't need to dispute an article that's source is the Gardere Baptist Church. When you quote stuff from unreliable and uneducated sources, that in turn makes your quotes and opinions on the subject matter subject and invalid.
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It appears that willful ignorance is a common trait shared by them
You're the genius trying to quote the Gardere Baptist church as an expert on school policy, Chief. Forgot to take your meds this morning?
YET AGAIN, LSURUSSIAN'S SOURCE IS THE GREATER SIXTY-AID BAPTIST CHURCH IN GARDERE.
This post was edited on 11/4/14 at 10:22 am
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:31 am to WindboyCajun
quote:Why are you complaining about getting a service that you don't pay property taxes for?
How is that working for you?
quote:There have been 3 new schools built in the SG area since the construction property tax was passed. Are any of the schools in SG overcrowded? I've asked that question before and no one has provided any evidence they are. So you are in favor of building new schools where they are not needed? THAT would be malfeasance.....and stupid.
and not building schools in the non-incorporated areas
quote:Wrong. There waiting list to get into BRMHS will replace those students.
Baton Rouge Magnet will cease to exist if St. George school district approved.
quote:Wrong again, but even if you would be right, so what? Are you a racist? Are you skeered of high academic achieving black students?
Baton Rouge Magnet will be 95% black
quote:No, it won't. There's no place to put them for at least 2 or 3 years.
that St. George will have immediately access to 500+ students to create a magnet school with high ACT and SAT scores.
LINK
quote:You're obviously ignorant of how the state teachers' retirement system works.
they can also draw on their EBRPSS retirement for a couple of years,
quote:It's difficult to comprehend what you mean with your chopped up syntax and punctuation but if I understand your meaning, you couldn't be more wrong. The schools listed in the article which their kids go to currently are not failing.
The Gardere area pastors are saying! We rather send our children to failing schools.
You're hysterical. Take a deep breath and calm down.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:36 am to BugAC
quote:No, my source is the Advocate newspaper, which I linked to.
LSURUSSIAN'S SOURCE IS THE GREATER SIXTY-AID BAPTIST CHURCH IN GARDERE.
I really haven't taken your posts very seriously since you posted the following: LINK
I answered you in that thread with:
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That is EXACTLY what is going to happen with the Mall of Louisiana and Perkins Rowe before they are included in a SG incorporation.
Be careful what you wish for.....
Posted on 11/4/14 at 10:59 am to LSURussian
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No, my source is the Advocate newspaper, which I linked to
And you were either too lazy or too stupid to find that the advocate's sources is the gardere baptist church. It took me 3 seconds to find that and completely discredit your post.
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I really haven't taken your posts very seriously since you posted the following
You sure did get upset when i called you chief. And you sure are doing your best to defend yourself even though i've proven that you linked your stats to a Gardere Baptist Church. So yeah, i don't believe for one second i'm not in your head.
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I really haven't taken your posts very seriously since you posted the following: LINK
I answered you in that thread with:
In January, that was a good question. They weren't trying to annex those areas. Since then, they've gone into full on panic mode annexing every part they could, except for the residential areas of the unincorporated areas. Why is that?
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:01 am to LSURussian
No place to put the students!
Why did the EBPSS put the Baton Rouge Magnet students in the "FEMA Village" at the former Lee High School temporary classrooms for 2 years?
I guess you haven't heard of the DROP program for retirees?
Flawed report by saying that St. George schools should be limited to number of students while EBRPSS is certainly derelict in placing over 1,500 students in some high schools.
According to the report, over 10-12 EBRPSS schools will close north of I-12. That is the same number that have been taken over by the RSD over the past 6 years.
The St. George residents are tired of busing their kids for 30-45 minutes to get to assigned schools north of I-12(failing I might add).
My US Senator calls me a Racist and a Sexist so I must acknowledge I must be a Racist and a Sexist! I discriminate certainly against bad policy.
The Advocate prints a report from the same group that brought you CATS! Again I ask, how is that working for you! CATS refuses to release data on ridership, cost per mile, etc.?
Why did the EBPSS put the Baton Rouge Magnet students in the "FEMA Village" at the former Lee High School temporary classrooms for 2 years?
I guess you haven't heard of the DROP program for retirees?
Flawed report by saying that St. George schools should be limited to number of students while EBRPSS is certainly derelict in placing over 1,500 students in some high schools.
According to the report, over 10-12 EBRPSS schools will close north of I-12. That is the same number that have been taken over by the RSD over the past 6 years.
The St. George residents are tired of busing their kids for 30-45 minutes to get to assigned schools north of I-12(failing I might add).
My US Senator calls me a Racist and a Sexist so I must acknowledge I must be a Racist and a Sexist! I discriminate certainly against bad policy.
The Advocate prints a report from the same group that brought you CATS! Again I ask, how is that working for you! CATS refuses to release data on ridership, cost per mile, etc.?
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:04 am to LSURussian
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LSURussian
Here's another question for you. Why do you try to change the subject once your links fail? This is a common theme for you. You post something with a link without reading it. People read the link and find the source (psst, the source is the originator of the claims, not the article parroting those claims) and discredit you. You then try to use semantics or flat out lie and say, "i didn't say that was my source, clearly it's the advocate article is my source."
Everyone knows you are being 100% intellectually dishonest when you do this. Then you pile on top of that and refuse to let up on stupid. You'd get a lot more credit if you'd admit when you were incorrect. You could have simply stated in this thread, "i apologize, i didn't really read the link and saw that it was Sixty-aid Baptist Church that is being quoted in the article". Instead you are trying to argue their point, and losing. And now you are trying to argue with me that you "simply posted a link to the advocate". Which means you didn't read your link, or were too obsessed on posting a negative article on St. George that you really didn't care who the source is.
Either way, it's a failing topic.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:09 am to BugAC
But LSURussian is a self made multi-millionaire that post on TD!
Isn't that an oxymoron?
Isn't that an oxymoron?
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:22 am to BugAC
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It took me 3 seconds to find that and completely discredit your post.
quote:Nope. I was making fun of your juvenile vocabulary, chief.
You sure did get upset when i called you chief.
quote:Whatever makes you feel better about yourself, chief.
i don't believe for one second i'm not in your head.
quote:No, it was a stupid question (which is right up your alley) because anyone with any intelligence already knew BR was not going to let those taxes walk away. I knew it in early January when I posted on January 6:
In January, that was a good question. They weren't trying to annex those areas.
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BR will do everything it can do to prevent that money from leaving. St George will not be allowed to get that money. Count on it.
LINK
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:38 am to BigJim
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Why? You are not their slaves. No one elected them. There are a lot of smart, affluent people in the St. George area. Pool your own money and brain power and do your own numbers and plan. You can only make things better.
Look, you're right- but this is the only group with the wherewithal to bring about change. Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't see any other movements this close to the finish line.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 11:59 am to MikeBRLA
quote:And nobody addresses the cost of busing kids versus the cost of school construction. Construction comes at a higher current cost, but it is probably lower than the long-term costs of busing kids to distant schools.
All this proves is that the SG area has been neglected more than previously thought by the EBR school system. The students are in the area, but there aren't any schools for them.
What I also don't understand is why people who live outside of the proposed St. George are so opposed to higher taxes for the St. George residents. Wouldn't the costs that their taxes would have to cover decrease? Shouldn't they be in line for a reduction in taxes for school construction? Shouldn't their children have increased access to the magnet programs without the St. George kids as competition?
Posted on 11/4/14 at 12:29 pm to WindboyCajun
quote:CATS has enough legitimate flaws that we should be criticizing that you shouldn't have to lie about it to make it look even worse. "Refuses to release data on ridership"???
how is that working for you! CATS refuses to release data on ridership, cost per mile, etc.?
The CATS ridership data is provided on its website when its monthly board meetings minutes are released. LINK
For example, the September board minutes show there were 1,035,254 rider "trips" in the April-August, 2014 period compared to 930,151 trips through the same period in 2013 for an increase of 105,103, or an increase of a little over 11% year over year.
Their expenses and revenues are also disclosed in their board minutes.
You can attend their board meetings and ask questions about their data and costs if you'd like to do so.
Are you so desperate you have to lie or are you just willfully uninformed? I'm going with the later....
Posted on 11/4/14 at 12:34 pm to BigJim
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The problem with this, and every other attack on the source of these numbers is that the Pro-St. George people have done NO homework on this issue. They made up a bunch of stuff. It's one thing to criticize this report if you have have your own set of numbers. I have read through the report and their logic looks pretty sound; but obviously numbers can be presented in a slanted manner. But if you want to break away and form your own school district and city THE FIRST THING YOU SHOULD DO IS RESEARCH. Browning and Rainey have been high on rhetoric and low on facts. Facts are things that only the opponents bring up, apparently. If this was some small, compact community, this would be less of a problem. But this is a major change with serious implications. The break away folks basic answer is "EBR sucks, we will figure it out later." That is incredibly irresponsible.
And Jim I can not disagree with anything you stated except before I had to leave the office I quickly googled three schools in SG that were recently built to get their attendance figures and all three of these schools surpassed the figures used by the opposition so I questioned their other numbers.
But you are exactly right, the SG people should lay a plan out there based on numbers collected themselves and they need to demonstrate that they have a handle on what would be required.
The fact that they haven't is hurting their cause IMHO and they need to get off the snide pretty quick.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 12:37 pm to LSURussian
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o, my source is the Advocate newspaper, which I linked to
the advocate didnt provide the data, the baptist church did, the "source" of the data is not the paper.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 12:40 pm to LSUMJ
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the advocate didnt provide the data, the baptist church did, the "source" of the data is not the paper.
That's journalism 101, Russian skipped that course and went to graduate school.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 12:45 pm to LSURussian
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Another lie on your part. But I think you actually know you're lying this time
I'm not lying Woodlawn is the only public high school built in "St. George".
Now if you mean I'm in error because there are private high schools in SG, I think everyone knows that, and since the discussion is public education who cares?
Posted on 11/4/14 at 12:54 pm to doubleb
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quote: Another lie on your part. But I think you actually know you're lying this time I'm not lying Woodlawn is the only public high school built in "St. George". Now if you mean I'm in error because there are private high schools in SG, I think everyone knows that, and since the discussion is public education who cares?
Exactly. I asked him about this earlier in the thread and his "answer" consisted of insults implying I don't know how to read a map. Perhaps I dont. What other high schools are in the proposed district? Woodlawn is it to the best of my knowledge.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 1:04 pm to MikeBRLA
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Exactly. I asked him about this earlier in the thread and his "answer" consisted of insults implying I don't know how to read a map. Perhaps I dont. What other high schools are in the proposed district? Woodlawn is it to the best of my knowledge.
It is sad that there is one public high school South of I-12 and that's Woodlawn.
There is currently no public high school south of I-10 except McKinley High School which Is near I-10 in the inner city. Lee High is currently being reconstructed, but that school is for magnet or gifted students and isn't going to be open until next year.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 1:06 pm to doubleb
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I'm not lying Woodlawn is the only public high school built in "St. George".
Yes, you're lying. What you wrote and what I disputed as a lie is the following statement:
quote:Lee, Tara and Belaire high schools are in the area which serves those "100,000 people."
It's unfortunate that 100,000 people only have one high school built in their area isn't it?
Currently some students who go to those schools but live in the new city will have to be bussed FURTHER to get to a SG school if a SG ISD happens.
But you already know that and instead chose to lie about it.
Posted on 11/4/14 at 1:11 pm to LSURussian
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St. George school district would force construction of more schools than plannedquote:I'm not lying Woodlawn is the only public high school built in "St. George". Yes, you're lying. What you wrote and what I disputed as a lie is the following statement: quote:It's unfortunate that 100,000 people only have one high school built in their area isn't it?Lee, Tara and Belaire high schools are in the area which serves those "100,000 people." Currently some students who go to those schools but live in the new city will have to be bussed FURTHER to get to a SG school if a SG ISD happens. But you already know that and instead chose to lie about it.
You are one pathetic individual.
The discussion is about St. George, the proposed city of St. George and its 100,00 plus population.
And yes only one public high school is built in that area, and no matter how many other high schools across town people are bussed to doesn't put another public school in that geographical area.
Lee. when it reopens, Tara, and Belaire are not in SG. They are all inside the BR City limits. You know it and I know it chief.
Give it up man, you're really looking bad now. Just say you were in error. It's easy to say so try it just one time.
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