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Special counsel urges Supreme Court to reject Trump’s immunity claim

Posted on 4/9/24 at 8:55 pm
Posted by loogaroo
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Posted on 4/9/24 at 8:55 pm
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Special counsel Jack Smith on Monday urged the Supreme Court to reject Donald Trump’s “novel and sweeping” claim that he is immune from criminal prosecution on charges of conspiring to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election.

“The President’s constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed does not entail a general right to violate them,” Smith said in his office’s main brief to the justices before the Supreme Court reviews the case on April 25, the final day of the court’s oral argument calendar for this term.

Trump’s D.C. prosecution for allegedly trying to block Joe Biden’s victory is on hold while the justices consider his immunity claim, and the high court’s ruling will determine whether and how quickly Trump faces trial.

The justices’ decision to take up Trump’s claim — rather than let stand an appeals court decision that he can be prosecuted — has drawn criticism for delaying the trial, which initially was scheduled to begin in early March.

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Trump, the presumptive 2024 Republican nominee for president, has tried to push the D.C. trial and the other legal challenges he faces until after the general election rematch with Biden. If Trump is again elected president, he could appoint an attorney general who would seek to have the federal cases dropped.




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Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 4/9/24 at 8:58 pm to
I have zero trust in the USSC.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9415 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 8:59 pm to
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"novel and sweeping” claim


What the frick is this bull shite? I was taught about presidential immunity in elementary school. There is nothing novel about this notion.
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 9:00 pm
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73476 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:00 pm to
I do after the CO ruling

If they say he doesnt that opens up a big box
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21879 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:02 pm to
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I was taught about presidential immunity in elementary school. There is nothing novel about this notion.


President Trump doesn't have immunity for attempting to overturn a lawful election to help Candidate Trump stay in office.

That's not even remotely within the scope of Presidential powers. We don't have Kings in this country, despite what MAGA may want.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
422241 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:02 pm to
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I was taught about presidential immunity in elementary school.

Not for this scenario. That's why it's at the USSC
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
9155 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:07 pm to
He did not do this. Lol, what an idiot.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17131 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:10 pm to
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President Trump doesn't have immunity for attempting to overturn a lawful election to help Candidate Trump stay in office.

That's not even remotely within the scope of Presidential powers.


So you're OK with trying Obama for murdering American citizens without trial mush less convictions, even killing their kids who were never even charged with crimes, much less as an adult facing the death penalty.Remember, no SOL for murder.

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We don't have Kings in this country, despite what Democrats may want.

FIFY
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
5559 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:10 pm to
Hey numbnuts, what’s the remedy for blatant fraud and theft personally by demorats to steal an election?
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
8559 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:11 pm to
Here Comes The Judge. All Rise.

Thank God SCOTUS will straighten these runaway Judges in the lower courts out!! It is as if they all want to be known as the Judge that took a President down.

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56454 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:12 pm to
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President Trump doesn't have immunity for attempting to overturn a lawful election to help Candidate Trump stay in office.



didn't happen
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
5067 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:12 pm to
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President Trump doesn't have immunity for attempting to overturn a lawful election to help Candidate Trump stay in office.

That's not even remotely within the scope of Presidential powers. We don't have Kings in this country, despite what MAGA may want.


Does the Federal Government have any investigative powers over Federal Elections held by the States? To me, that's the central argument. If they do, then the President has Presidential powers over the Federal agencies that would investigate.

It's hard to argue that the Federal Government has zero authority over Federal elections held by the States after all of the lawsuits that they have won as it relates to civil rights and other voter eligibility issues.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30529 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:12 pm to
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BamaAtl


Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
8559 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:19 pm to
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Does the Federal Government have any investigative powers over Federal Elections held by the States? To me, that's the central argument. If they do, then the President has Presidential powers over the Federal agencies that would investigate.

It's hard to argue that the Federal Government has zero authority over Federal elections held by the States after all of the lawsuits that they have won as it relates to civil rights and other voter eligibility issues.


KA-BOOOOOM!!
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
1972 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:20 pm to
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Not for this scenario. That's why it's at the USSC
were you there? how do you know hec wasnt?
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
11028 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:25 pm to
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“The President’s constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed does not entail a general right to violate them,” Smith said


Maybe he should talk with Mr. Hur about this concept.
Posted by HughsWorkPhone
Member since Sep 2017
1144 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:26 pm to
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President Trump doesn't have immunity for attempting to overturn a lawful election


It wasnt a lawful election, that’s the entire point.

Chains of custody were not kept, signature verification not performed, laws changed through incorrect channels.
This post was edited on 4/9/24 at 9:31 pm
Posted by LaMigra
Member since Nov 2022
1189 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:31 pm to
You’re an idiot!

I was going to say you are a retard but I don’t want to insult retards!!
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131359 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 9:34 pm to
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President Trump doesn't have immunity for attempting to overturn a lawful election


More and more facts have been revealed to certainty question the lawfulness of the election.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
16402 posts
Posted on 4/9/24 at 10:17 pm to
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attempting to overturn a lawful election


What did he do and when did he do it?

You truly are braindead.
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