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udtiger
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Speaks volumes that the men that shot at each other from 1861-65 could reconcile...
But so-called modern, educated, "civilized" that never has that experience not only choose not to, but to vilify men they don't know and can never understand.


CommoDawg
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re: Speaks volumes that the men that shot at each other from 1861-65 could reconcile...
Have you heard of reconstruction? It was hardly a peaceful time period. The historical revisionism on this board is amazing


udtiger
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re: Speaks volumes that the men that shot at each other from 1861-65 could reconcile...
I am speaking about the late 1800s/early 1900s, when all the monuments went up.

There are photos of thousands of former Yankees and Rebels together at dedications of monuments at the Military Park in Vicksburg during that period.



RCDfan1950
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re: Speaks volumes that the men that shot at each other from 1861-65 could reconcile...
Cut from a different cloth back then, ud. Hell, as much as this Antifa bunch purports to hate Hitler...how many of them would really storm Normandy, or even sign up to fight.

They are losers in life and have contempt in their hearts, 'idealist rebels without a cause', IMO; much like the Islamists.


WhiskeyPapa
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re: Speaks volumes that the men that shot at each other from 1861-65 could reconcile...
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Speaks volumes that the men that shot at each other from 1861-65 could reconcile...


That is true if you mean that northern soldiers didn't insist that secesh traitors be hanged.


WhiskeyPapa
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re: Speaks volumes that the men that shot at each other from 1861-65 could reconcile...
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There are photos of thousands of former Yankees and Rebels together at dedications of monuments at the Military Park in Vicksburg during that period.


As veterans; it wasn't an endorsement of treason.

It was plainly called treason at the time:

"It might seem at first thought to be of little difference whether the present movement at the South be called "secession" or "rebellion." The movers, however, well understand the difference. At the beginning they knew they could never raise their treason to any respectable magnitude by any name which implies violation of law."

A. Lincoln 7/4/61

This simple fact has been obscured by the Lost Cause scum but it was clear to people at the time.
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Dawgfanman
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re: Speaks volumes that the men that shot at each other from 1861-65 could reconcile...
Many/most of these monuments were partially or completely funded by groups like the UDC in the early 20th century lost cause movement.

Most southerners, myself included, were indoctrinated by the prevailing ideas of this movement in our history classes as late as the 80s and perhaps even today.


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CrusaderInfidel
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re: Speaks volumes that the men that shot at each other from 1861-65 could reconcile...
Treason is when you side with the enemy against your own country...seceding from said country is called revolt not treason...10th Amendment says power to federal govt came from the states...guess that was only a one way amendment


GumboPot
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re: Speaks volumes that the men that shot at each other from 1861-65 could reconcile...
It was a bit easier between those two groups. To start with they were all Christians. That's a good place to start.


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Champagne
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re: Speaks volumes that the men that shot at each other from 1861-65 could reconcile...
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northern soldiers didn't insist


Uniformed members of the military aren't authorized to decide shite when it comes to the political decisions of the civilian government, so, let's just shut this line of thought down right now.

If the civilian Government of the USA in 1865 had decided to bring CSA civilian and government members to trail for Treason, that decision would have been enforced by the Union Army, but, the decision would not originate with the Union Army.

Man, you love to exaggerate and stretch the truth at times in order to antagonize CSA sympathizers around here.



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RIPMachoMan
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re: Speaks volumes that the men that shot at each other from 1861-65 could reconcile...
Come on man. Read a book not from a pundit on that period.






















And stop posting.


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gthog61
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re: Speaks volumes that the men that shot at each other from 1861-65 could reconcile...
Have you seen poctures of civil war reunions?

Your ignorance is amazing


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chalmetteowl
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re: Speaks volumes that the men that shot at each other from 1861-65 could reconcile...
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They are losers in life and have contempt in their hearts, 'idealist rebels without a cause', IMO; much like the Islamists.
I know you know there's a lot of successful people in and backing Antifas... Probably more so than those of the tiki torches


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BamaAtl
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re: Speaks volumes that the men that shot at each other from 1861-65 could reconcile...
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The historical revisionism on this board is amazing


Not that amazing, considering the number of Republicans...


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weagle99
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re: Speaks volumes that the men that shot at each other from 1861-65 could reconcile...
Do you ever post anything that isn't Abe Lincoln?

You are like the Toddy for a dead syphillis President.


WhiskeyPapa
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re: Speaks volumes that the men that shot at each other from 1861-65 could reconcile...
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Treason is when you side with the enemy against your own country...seceding from said country is called revolt not treason


The founding fathers knew that if they failed they would be hanged and King George said as much. He called them traitors, which they clearly were.

Proclamation of Rebellion
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A 1775 printing of the proclamation
The Proclamation of Rebellion, officially titled A Proclamation for Suppressing Rebellion and Sedition, was the response of George III of Great Britain to the news of the Battle of Bunker Hill at the outset of the American Revolutionary War. Issued August 23, 1775, it declared elements of the American colonies in a state of "open and avowed rebellion." It ordered officials of the British Empire "to use their utmost endeavours to withstand and suppress such rebellion." The Proclamation also encouraged subjects throughout the Empire, including those in Great Britain, to report anyone carrying on "traitorous correspondence" with the rebels so that they could be punished.
'

-wiki

Image: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/Kings_Proclamation_1775_08_23.png
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Y.A. Tittle
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re: Speaks volumes that the men that shot at each other from 1861-65 could reconcile...
There's no seceding from a monarchy.


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magildachunks
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re: Speaks volumes that the men that shot at each other from 1861-65 could reconcile...
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Do you ever post anything that isn't Abe Lincoln?



I posted Grant's quote proclaiming them to have committed treason.

In response to your proclamation that he didn't think they committed treason.


Will you admit to being wrong about that?


magildachunks
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re: Speaks volumes that the men that shot at each other from 1861-65 could reconcile...
Here's one from a Virginian who fought for the Republic.

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[T]he greatest efforts made by the defeated insurgents since the close of the war have been to promulgate the idea that the cause of liberty, justice, humanity, equality, and all the calendar of the virtues of freedom, suffered violence and wrong when the effort for southern independence failed. This is, of course, intended as a species of political cant, whereby the crime of treason might be covered with a counterfeit varnish of patriotism, so that the precipitators of the rebellion might go down in history hand in hand with the defenders of the government, thus wiping out with their own hands their own stains; a species of self-forgiveness amazing in its effrontery, when it is considered that life and property—justly forfeited by the laws of the country, of war, and of nations, through the magnanimity of the government and people—was not exacted from them. —?George Henry Thomas, November 1868[14]



Mentions the crime of treason and attacks their "Lost Cause" revisionism of the war.




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TbirdSpur2010
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re: Speaks volumes that the men that shot at each other from 1861-65 could reconcile...
The confederacy was a treasonous cause. Not even remotely up for debate.

The mental gymnastics some engage in to cast themselves as both staunchly pro-American and staunch confederate apologists in an attempt to reconcile such an obvious dichotomy is mind-blowing.


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