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re: Sorry, but if you think we were safer under Obama, you are a fricking imbicile...

Posted on 4/29/17 at 7:42 am to
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 4/29/17 at 7:42 am to
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We were a fricking international joke....


Well trump has painted himself into a corner on the Korean Peninsula, fat boy tested him again yesterday for the 2nd time , and trump hasn't done anything but beat his chest over bombing an empty air strip in Syria.

Hope the international community isn't starting to see him is all talk and zero bite. Almost in the 'red lines drawn' territory at this point.


Trumpkins that sugar coat everything by this asministration is as bad as the liberals on this board
Posted by tarzana
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Posted on 4/29/17 at 7:45 am to
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they look at us as if we are arrogant

That's exactly what President Obama was trying to instill in the American psyche for 8 years by "cutting America down to size". He didn't make an inroads into the poliboard, however.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 4/29/17 at 7:59 am to
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they look at us as if we are arrogant


That's exactly what President Obama was trying to instill in the American psyche for 8 years by "cutting America down to size". He didn't make an inroads into the poliboard, however.


Just because people see you as arrogant doesn't make it so. (Although, to an extent we are) However, they saw us as arrogant while Obama was in office, too, so don't kid yourself. I have never thought anyone should conduct themselves in such a way as to pacify others opinion. Those countries that think we are arrogant, are the first to ask why we don't help countries that are in civil unrest, then they criticize us for being there. they don't want us to :police" the world....they just want us to do what THEY think we should be doing.
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 4/29/17 at 8:01 am to
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Well trump has painted himself into a corner on the Korean Peninsula, fat boy tested him again yesterday for the 2nd time , and trump hasn't done anything but beat his chest over bombing an empty air strip in Syria.


So, it is your opinion the united States should act quickly and harshly in every circumstance?

Are you going to criticize President Obama for drawing a red line in the sand, then backing off when his ultimatum was tested? Or is your criticism saved only for Trump?

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Trumpkins that sugar coat everything by this asministration is as bad as the liberals on this board

And exactly where do you fit in? I have not seen a single positive post from you about Trump. You are just as bad as the liberals, I would say.

Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 8:03 am to
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Bush and Cheney kept you safe. Just ask them.


And you would argue they did not? Past 9/11 (Which happened shortly after Bush got into office) I can't think of a single terroristic act on American soil. maybe you can?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 8:04 am to
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Hurrrr durrrr let's bomb somebody so we can beat our chest hurrrr durrr.

You're going to need a lot of therapy.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 8:06 am to
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Yeah, wanna know what a joke is? A potus whom our closest ally, England, won't allow to address parliament. But sure, he's taken seriously.

Obviously North Korea is taking him seriously (they're not).

Putin and xi are laughing their asses off


And you are taking them seriously? Xi has already told NK not to do any more tests, and then, boom! They test. Let's see what China does about it. Then we will see who is laughing. Win/Win. If China does nothing we can laugh at them for being ineffectual. If they do something, we can laugh at NK and Lil Kim.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 4/29/17 at 8:07 am to
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So, it is your opinion the united States should act quickly and harshly in every circumstance?
not at all... I actually didn't really care for the Syria stuff at first and half arse melted until I realized he didn't really do anything.... and more so for the fact we don't have the money to be meddling, jmho

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Are you going to criticize President Obama for drawing a red line in the sand, then backing off
of course, what a soft piece of shite. Don't draw lines and put yourself into a corner... of you are going to say you are doing something you better damn do it or you come off as completely weak and that's when you have Russia and Iran and the likes deciding to push their agendas

Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 8:08 am to
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You don't think the civilized world is not laughing at us now with the Pussy Grabber as President.


Civilized world? Where is that at?
However, I could care less what other people think. Why do you care so much? Are you one of those that want to be just like Europe? Why? because everything is going so swimmingly over there?
Posted by USMCTiger03
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 4/29/17 at 8:08 am to
Obama was an ostrich POTUS when it comes to foreign affairs and threats.
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 4/29/17 at 8:09 am to
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However, I could care less what other people think.
well how much do you care then?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 8:10 am to
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not at all... I actually didn't really care for the Syria stuff at first and half arse melted until I realized he didn't really do anything.... and more so for the fact we don't have the money to be meddling, jmho


On the contrary. He made a statement. Is it your opinion that you have to kill somebody to make a statement? As for the money thing....I am guessing you were outraged by the Bush and Obama stimulus packages, ObamaCare and so many other wonderful things that have been done that spends money that we don't have? We have been spending money that we don't have for almost the entire time we have been a country. Now it is becoming a concern for you?



Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 4/29/17 at 8:16 am to
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I am guessing you were outraged by the Bush and Obama stimulus packages, ObamaCare and so many other wonderful things that have been done that spends money that we don't have?
bingo

Like this crazy $1trillion infrastructure plan trump unveiled... insane how fiscally liberal he is.

I voted for W twice and it makes me sick looking at the debt he incurred.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 8:19 am to
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We have been spending money that we don't have for almost the entire time we have been a country.
well considering I've only been alive since '82 it's kinda hard for me to have been concerned or outraged.

But yes since then absolute ballooning of the debt the past couple decades, it's complete insanity.


But I guess since the past two administrations spent all of our grandkids money, why not just keep it going right? frick it at this point, SPEND BABY
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35398 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 8:51 am to
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Are you going to criticize President Obama for drawing a red line in the sand, then backing off when his ultimatum was tested? Or is your criticism saved only for Trump?
To avoid a big attack, Syria agreed to let Russia remove huge stockpiles of chemical weapons and there wasn't a similar attack under Obama.

In response to Trump's attack they moved their planes to an airport under Russian protection. No investigation for other weapons.

Seems like they respected Obama more judging by their actions.
Posted by LSU Jax
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Member since Sep 2006
8870 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 9:49 am to
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America went 8 straight years with no terrorist incident on its soil.

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My bad, I forgot about the Boston Marathon.

You forgot about a lot more than that.


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That was terrorism, but rather of the "lone wolf" variety

Is it not still terrorism? The tactics have shifted considerably in case you haven't noticed.


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as was the workplace violence of Nadal Hassan and the San Bernardino shooter.

GTFO with this "workplace violence" bullshite!!



And have you forgotten about Orlando??? Jesus. The shite happened less than a year ago. But ohh... "8 straight years with no terrorist incident on its soil."

fricking dumbass liberal frick.
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 10:03 am to
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Reading some of this garbage.....do you not plainly see that we are being taken more seriously now that we have a president who is not afraid to do what is needed? Do you seriously want to debate the last 8 years versus now with regard to foreign policy??? We were a fricking international joke....not so much the last 3 months. If you can't recognize the newfound respect/reverence the U.S. has been given internationally, then you are either incredibly stupid or politically motivated. It isn't really a valid topic of debate...because it is fricking obvious. It's like debating whether the sky is blue....


For someone asking for a debate, you did a piss-poor job. All you've done with your comments above are to slander those who disagree with you and have added nothing to support your theory. Get back at us when you can put forth some details that actually support your opinion. And by the way, fear is not the same thing as respect, although the neanderthal within us seems to equate the two.
Posted by AZTarheeel
Member since Feb 2015
3702 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 10:24 am to
Are you talking about the thousands of drone strikes under Obama?
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20416 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 10:30 am to
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Hurrrr durrrr let's bomb somebody so we can beat our chest hurrrr durrr.
you're a whiney little bitch
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6124 posts
Posted on 4/29/17 at 11:04 am to
We weren't unsafe under Obama. The threat to our safety from Terrorist is the most overblown thing in modern history. Influenza kills 10s of thousands of people in the US every year but there is no panic and the percentage of people who don't get a free shot to prevent it is still low. At the same time people freak out over the nearly non-existent chance they may be the victim of a terrorist attack.

Propaganda.

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