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re: Some claim Jesus would be a liberal Democrat today
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:40 am to mizzoukills
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:40 am to mizzoukills
I am sure Jesus wouldn't waste his time with petty political alignment.
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Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:40 am to DonChowder
Yeah, Jesus wouldn't be in a Political party, but I do find it funny that when running for Office he seems real important, and then forgotten till next election....The hypocrisy from both sides is amazing....but the people keep buying the shell of what our parties have become...WWJD? Just something to use for emotional arguments, now...
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:43 am to mizzoukills
quote:Probably so.
Some claim Jesus would be a liberal Democrat today
After all....he WAS Jewish.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:47 am to LSURussian
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After all....he WAS Jewish.
:rimshot:
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 10:48 am
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:49 am to LSURussian
Jesus didn't care for establishment type governance with regards to the way religious leaders went about their business in his time on earth. I'm sure he would probably call out politicians on both sides of the aisle just as he called out the "religious elites" back then.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:49 am to ehidal1
Basically, Jesus was a-political outside of church politics. His kingdom was not of this earth. He did not preach against paying your taxes either. "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's." The main tenents he preached were about mutual respect, forgiving those who have wronged you, non-violence, hypocrisy, and over-adherence to the law. Jesus often spoke out about those who kept the laws, but not the spirit of them. They were so consumed with the letter of the law that they used them to exclude and isolate others, when in reality, the laws were a framework for a good society, not a straitjacket. Jesus believed that good works, fair treatment, ect should all come from a place of love, not compulsion, not religious decree, not executive fiat, love.
That's a lot of rebukes against hypocrisy and "compulsive" compassion. Many people fail to realize that Jesus was not making up "the golden rule" (love your neighbor as yourself) on the spot. It actually comes from Leviticus 19:18
This statement also appears in the Gospels of Matthew, Luke, and Mark as well as in the Epistles of Paul. Here it is from Matthew 22:37-39
So clearly, he does not favor a compulsive welfare state, but rather compassionate giving. That does not really gel with any political force because Jesus was not a political leader, but rather a spiritual or philosophical one.
quote:Matt 6:2
“Thus, when you give alms, sound no trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may be praised by men. Amen, I say to you, they have received their reward.”
quote:Matt 6:5
“And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by men. Amen, I say to you, they have received their reward.”
quote:Matt 6:16
“And when you fast, do not look dismal, like the hypocrites, for they disfigure their faces that their fasting may be seen by men. Amen, I say to you, they have received their reward.”
That's a lot of rebukes against hypocrisy and "compulsive" compassion. Many people fail to realize that Jesus was not making up "the golden rule" (love your neighbor as yourself) on the spot. It actually comes from Leviticus 19:18
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You shall not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the children of your people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the LORD.
This statement also appears in the Gospels of Matthew, Luke, and Mark as well as in the Epistles of Paul. Here it is from Matthew 22:37-39
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Jesus said to him, 'You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.' This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like it: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.'
So clearly, he does not favor a compulsive welfare state, but rather compassionate giving. That does not really gel with any political force because Jesus was not a political leader, but rather a spiritual or philosophical one.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:51 am to kingbob
kingbob
You, sir, are now annointed King of the Bible.
You, sir, are now annointed King of the Bible.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:51 am to Navytiger74
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I doubt anyone thinks Jesus would be a liberal democrat today.
well Jesus was extremely liberal for his time. that said i don't think bringing him into political discussions is a good thing and anyone claiming to "know" what he would say today is completely full of shite. I'm sure he would have a lot of choice words for all of us.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:52 am to lsupride87
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Well Jesus wouldnt say, "Well screw those people in the ghetto because they refuse to help themselves."
You're right ... he'd probably say, "lsupride87 .. .work your arse off and give at least half your shite to the G ... so they can give it to these lazy foo's ... ya feel me?"
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:53 am to Draconian Sanctions
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well Jesus was extremely liberal for his time
Indeed
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anyone claiming to "know" what he would say today is completely full of shite
Indeed
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I'm sure he would have a lot of choice words for all of us.
Most certainly
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:54 am to Draconian Sanctions
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I doubt anyone thinks Jesus would be a liberal democrat today.
well Jesus was extremely liberal for his time. that said i don't think bringing him into political discussions is a good thing and anyone claiming to "know" what he would say today is completely full of shite. I'm sure he would have a lot of choice words for all of us.
Exactly. He was a purely spiritual leader in a time where everyone was dying for a political/military savior. He gave them the opposite of what they wanted, he gave them what they needed. You don't need a Kingdom. You don't need Pharasees, you don't need the trappings of power, all you need is love, humility, forgiveness, and compassion, but love (for God, for yourself, and for others) above all others.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:55 am to Draconian Sanctions
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I'm sure he would have a lot of choice words for all of us.
Yup. We all fall short so we all have places in our lives that frankly we could stand to change.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:55 am to mizzoukills
This is a dumb thread and its almost guaranteed to appear at least three times a year.
Jesus did not speak to social issues. Jesus did not speak out against slavery although it was prevalent during his time.
When Jesus said "give to the poor" he didn't say because of his concern for the poor. He was more concerned with the immortal soul of the giver.
There is nothing in the gospels that suggest Jesus would have been a liberal in 2014.
Jesus did not speak to social issues. Jesus did not speak out against slavery although it was prevalent during his time.
When Jesus said "give to the poor" he didn't say because of his concern for the poor. He was more concerned with the immortal soul of the giver.
There is nothing in the gospels that suggest Jesus would have been a liberal in 2014.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 10:56 am
Posted on 6/30/14 at 10:57 am to Jay Quest
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Jesus did not speak to social issues. Jesus did not speak out against slavery although it was prevalent during his time.
Considering that religious law basically governed social issues back then, he did speak to those issues.
And it's important to note that slavery back then was radically different than the slavery of say the early United States.
This post was edited on 6/30/14 at 11:00 am
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:01 am to Mattwells90
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Considering that religious law basically governed social issues back then, he did speak to those issues
Roman rule notwithstanding I suppose.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:02 am to goldennugget
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But welfare is against biblical principles IMO because giving to the needy should be done voluntarily out of compassion from the heart, and not by force
During biblical times, people were prevented from gathering the "extras" of their crop harvests. Any crops or food that had fallen to the ground or were on the outside of their fields were required by law to be left for the poor.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:03 am to Drew Orleans
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but if either side tries to claim Jesus, they should renounce their religion right now because they obviously don't know shite about him.
I love this. Spot on.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:09 am to mizzoukills
No brah,
Jesus is libertarian.
Jesus is libertarian.
Posted on 6/30/14 at 11:15 am to TrueTiger
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Jesus is libertarian.
explain...
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