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So are we jumping into 2003-era anti-Islamicist rhetoric?
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:41 am
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:41 am
Seems with the announcement about Iran and the recent incident in Australia being amplified by certain outlets, there is a set of talking points developing.
I've seen more support of US intervention in international affairs that I've seen since the last time the old Islamic terror playbook was dusted off (ISIS era during the Obama admin).
I've seen more support of US intervention in international affairs that I've seen since the last time the old Islamic terror playbook was dusted off (ISIS era during the Obama admin).
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Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:44 am to SlowFlowPro
Aren’t you all in on the Putin/Russia hate?
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:45 am to SlowFlowPro
That lisp is a real problem.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:48 am to thebigmuffaletta
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Aren’t you all in on the Putin/Russia hate?
Hate? No.
Do I keep focus on his role/blame for certain things? Yes. That's not hate.
I don't even use the "Russian/Putin lover" trope, even when people indirectly are using his propaganda. Like when they try to frame the discussion about Ukraine only after the civil unrest began, so that we ignore Russia causing the response, I focus on framing and not some opinion/adoration of Putin.
I mean, I do the same with respect to the Islamicist issues in the ME, too. Iran is a-hole and Iran was 100% a part of October 7. I don't shy away from directing culpability onto Iran.
Doesn't mean that I lower myself to ad hom attacks like calling people who don't support open invasion of iran anti-Semetic.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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I guess they're doing their part
I guess they're doing their part
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:51 am to SlowFlowPro
That would be believable if you hadn’t already spent a lot of time here wagging the Muh Russia Muh Putin boogeyman. Seems to me that you’re just upset that they’re switching boogeymen.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:51 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Well congrats on that 'leniency'
I don't even use the "Russian/Putin lover" trope
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:52 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
the old Islamic terror playbook was dusted off
That's not going to help Biden in Michigan.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:52 am to SlowFlowPro
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the old Islamic terror playbook was dusted off
That's not going to help Biden in Michigan.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:52 am to thebigmuffaletta
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if you hadn’t already spent a lot of time here wagging the Muh Russia Muh Putin boogeyman.
You mean bringing up his influence in Ukraine prior to 2014 and that influence leading to Maidan?
What's wrong with speaking the truth?
I was a loud opponent of "muh Russia" during the Trump admin, so I have no clue what else you're referencing. But you like to make shite up, so it's probably that.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:52 am to SlowFlowPro
I’m pretty sure this is more or less the same approach to and position on Iran as it’s been since the Shah was deposed. So I’m not so sure where the sudden shock is coming from.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:54 am to SlowFlowPro
Due to this administrations incompetency , we've definitely jumped into 2003 -2016 era Islamic malfeasance.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:55 am to SlowFlowPro
So you’re all in on the establishment’s talking points when it comes to Muh Russia but now you’re upset when that same establishment trots out it’s Iran boogeyman talking points?
Like I said, you’re just upset they’re switching boogeymen on you.
Like I said, you’re just upset they’re switching boogeymen on you.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:55 am to SlowFlowPro
gotta circle back to a known good boogeyman.
russia for "cold war"
the end of that coincided with islamic Iraq bs
then several years clinton escapades in hot spots
back to 2 decades of islamic boogeyman
back to Russia Russia Russia
back to islam
if only there were some clues as to what is going on
russia for "cold war"
the end of that coincided with islamic Iraq bs
then several years clinton escapades in hot spots
back to 2 decades of islamic boogeyman
back to Russia Russia Russia
back to islam
if only there were some clues as to what is going on
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:56 am to davyjones
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I’m pretty sure this is more or less the same approach to and position on Iran as it’s been since the Shah was deposed.
That's why i said we're dusting off the old playbook. It's not a new strategy.
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. So I’m not so sure where the sudden shock is coming from.
When was the last time we had open Israeli and "Palestinian" warfare during an election year? That's an honest question.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:57 am to Turbeauxdog
What could Biden have done differently about the middle east? I could pick him apart about Ukraine/Russia, but other than publicly battling with Bibi a bit, he has not actually done anything to restrain Israel. You think Trump acting tougher would have helped here?
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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So are we jumping into 2003-era anti-Islamicist rhetoric?
As opposed to their 24-7 365 hate for us?
In response.. no. It’s the “white supremacy”, “white rage”, “white lash”, “white colonialist”, etc, blame era.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:58 am to thebigmuffaletta
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So you’re all in on the establishment’s talking points when it comes to Muh Russia b
Uh, this has been the case since 2014 before it was "the establishment's talking points" (which isn't really the case today as much, as they focus primarily on NATO which I do not).
Maidan was a big topic on here in 2014. The cause of the civil revolt was not a secret. It's always been a clear cause and effect relationship.
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but now you’re upset when that same establishment trots out it’s Iran boogeyman talking points?
Who is upset?
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:59 am to Bunk Moreland
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What could Biden have done differently about the middle east? I could pick him apart about Ukraine/Russia, but other than publicly battling with Bibi a bit, he has not actually done anything to restrain Israel. You think Trump acting tougher would have helped here?
He would have scared Iran and October 7 would never have happened
That's the NPC talking point response
Posted on 4/13/24 at 8:59 am to SlowFlowPro
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Who is upset?
Obviously you are
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